Looks like viridian and I agree on both "Yay team Cylon" and that humans aren't really innocent in this series. Perhaps it's for different reasons, but on those two general points we agree.
Did the Cylons start it? Honestly we don't have a real answer. Humans broke the treaty first (both in spirit and action); humans initially put down Cylons when they first asked to be recognized as beings back in the mechanical days; can we honestly say that Cylons started this track, or can we say that mutual distrust on both sides lead to this conflict?
I must say that I disagree with you assessment of the Barolay moment. To me it was the best example of "everyone gets what they want and everyone losses, war sucks" type moment. Barolay got her wish of helping Kara deepen the trust in the Cylon arrangement. PTSD-Six killed off her tormentor and was freed from a life of trauma. Anders got his vengeance. Kara got fast-tracked to the hybrid. Natalie got one step closer to an alliance with the humans. Yet everyone loss. Really as war metaphors go you can't get much better than that. I even rematched the eps to watch Barolay go down to figure out what actually killed her (PTSD-Six may have wanted to kill her, but her death was actually a "lucky" fluke).
On a bit of a side note, why the hell with all those folks in the room did no one wonder about the little bit about Kara being an agent of death and leading them all to their end? You would think that a line like that would be enough for someone to off Kara just to safeguard Human and Cylon lives.
Back to topic though, I think you're going a tad light on the humans here. As a track record, humans in this series have done some rather messed up things. The "it's ok, it's just a toaster" argument really doesn't hold much water. Hell just look at how they treat Baltar. I the eyes of most human Baltar was for all intents and purposes a Cylon. Yet when you take a look at the bulk of Baltar's offenses against humanity you see that much of it was out of ignorance or with a gun to his head. The whole messenger of god thing is the first nice thing that's actually happened to him and he's still having the crap kicked out of him frequently. Oh, and he's fraking human!!! In general the humans have not held the moral high ground for the entire show (one could argue that they held it during the mini-series/pilot). Really it seems like a one-ups-manship contest between the humans and cylons as to who could accomplish the greatest set of atrocities for the dumbest reasons..... and they are neck and neck to the finish-line.
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Did the Cylons start it? Honestly we don't have a real answer. Humans broke the treaty first (both in spirit and action); humans initially put down Cylons when they first asked to be recognized as beings back in the mechanical days; can we honestly say that Cylons started this track, or can we say that mutual distrust on both sides lead to this conflict?
I must say that I disagree with you assessment of the Barolay moment. To me it was the best example of "everyone gets what they want and everyone losses, war sucks" type moment. Barolay got her wish of helping Kara deepen the trust in the Cylon arrangement. PTSD-Six killed off her tormentor and was freed from a life of trauma. Anders got his vengeance. Kara got fast-tracked to the hybrid. Natalie got one step closer to an alliance with the humans. Yet everyone loss. Really as war metaphors go you can't get much better than that. I even rematched the eps to watch Barolay go down to figure out what actually killed her (PTSD-Six may have wanted to kill her, but her death was actually a "lucky" fluke).
On a bit of a side note, why the hell with all those folks in the room did no one wonder about the little bit about Kara being an agent of death and leading them all to their end? You would think that a line like that would be enough for someone to off Kara just to safeguard Human and Cylon lives.
Back to topic though, I think you're going a tad light on the humans here. As a track record, humans in this series have done some rather messed up things. The "it's ok, it's just a toaster" argument really doesn't hold much water. Hell just look at how they treat Baltar. I the eyes of most human Baltar was for all intents and purposes a Cylon. Yet when you take a look at the bulk of Baltar's offenses against humanity you see that much of it was out of ignorance or with a gun to his head. The whole messenger of god thing is the first nice thing that's actually happened to him and he's still having the crap kicked out of him frequently. Oh, and he's fraking human!!! In general the humans have not held the moral high ground for the entire show (one could argue that they held it during the mini-series/pilot). Really it seems like a one-ups-manship contest between the humans and cylons as to who could accomplish the greatest set of atrocities for the dumbest reasons..... and they are neck and neck to the finish-line.