Lost-y love
Nov. 21st, 2005 05:48 pmI've seriously watched half the series in about the past three days, not including Sunday. I'm totally in love with the series as even the character back-stories that I a) knew and b) didn't think I cared about managed to make me pay at least a little attention. It's weird, it's like watching the series over again because I know where the characters end up from the season 2 stuffs I've seen, and from the recap episode and comments from
hslayer and
viridian (also, PS,
deepredbelle, I need to go over your episode notes again because they were fun!).
In no particular order:
-- I am impressed to say that I am a little more forgiving of holier-than-thou Jack. I am a little less interested in his guilt-father complex after finding out what his father did that made Jack turn on him--love is well and good, but can you really be filial and pious to a man who killed a mother and unborn child due to gross negligence as a result of being too drunk to operate properly? Jack's mother putting all that guilt on him for "what he did" aka letting the hospital know his father was a drunkard? Not buying it, dearie. Your husband is a menace where he's expected to be a hero and, if not that, at least he ought to be a professional. If surgery and medicine were his life, what does it say to you that he's letting something else brush that all aside? Jack shouldn't feel guilty at all, really. He did the damn right thing and it wasn't easy. Still waiting on the episodes that will touch on his wife to be sure I forgive him for being such a whiney cry-ey baby in season 2.
-- Sayid wasn't really in love with Nadia, which makes his jump to Shannon a little less heinous. I'm still surprised that incompetance didn't merit the same kind of punishment as complicity in Nadia's escape--this is Hussein Iraq, where he flayed the feet of the Iraqi soccer team when they lost the World Cup/Olympics (not sure which). Letting go a terrorist/anti-government radical is going to be frowned upon and so too is negligence. I like him annoucning his intentions on Shannon to Boone, though I still wish he'd have put his loving in a better place.
--Boone's story made me like him a lot less. How either he or Sayid could be so far gone as to find anything Shannon does endearing is beyond me. Then again, a man who falls in love with his (step)sister isn't exactly expected to be all there in the first place. So he's an idiot and a freak. Do we find out what Sawyer was arrested for in the background of when Boone goes to the police to get Shannon's boy-toy arrested?
--I can't decide where I fall on the Jin/Sun debacle. He's willing to do anything for her, but he also wants to protect her from that which he must do in order to have her. She's patient enough to put up with his steady withdrawal and yet she doesn't push nearly enough to get him to open up to her (she nags, but she doesn't tell him she doesn't care what he's done only that she is concerned about him--if she'd come off more worried for than by him, much of their problems wouldn't have happened, methinks). It's a cheat that Jin didn't ever kill anyone, really, given how violent/tempermental he's portrayed as being. Where's his remorse for beating down Michael? Does that come later?
-Charlie's story made no sense. His brother was messing up his life with bad dames and drugs...so he starts doing the same? Felt bad about the gal friend he betrayed, but laughed my ass off when he vomited in the copier--we have that exact same one at work!
--Kate is really starting to irritate me. I like that she's uncanny resourceful and sly, which proves she can play games with the rest of the gang, but the differences between her and the others are still acres apart. She's not really a bad person, per se, as most of her illegal doings seem to be the fault of hanging with a bad crowd/bad luck. However, she's made loads of wrong decisions with how she treats the rest of the castaways, particularly Jack. Since he's privy to the most damning sort of misinformation, she ought to be as straight with him as she can instead of letting him get the wrong idea and then making him think worse of her by not sharing mundane information. I think what really bothers me about her is the fact that she acts all tough and is caustic and sarcastic and then crumples like a little girl and expects pity or mercy. When Ana-Lucia did that in last week's new episode, I believed it a cathartic release. Jack's got one coming, too. Kate, though, she whimpers and simpers and pouts and then smiles and flirts and tricks. I don't like the constant need to show her being regretful as a ploy to make us remember that, no matter what, she's not really a bad person.
--Contrast that to someone who is a bad person and does get my sympathies regardless: Sawyer. Holy hell, I cannot stop loving Sawyer. He's a jackass, and for a minute there in his first set of flashbacks, I thought they pushed the 'he's trying to make people hate him' thing too far (predictably, it was Kate who made that melodramatic conclusion). When he started being nicer to Hurley and appearing to give in (in his best interest, of course) to Jack, I found it cute but less enjoyable--Sawyer is best when he's at his most cantakerous. But the look in his eyes when Kate figures out that he wrote the letter to the real Sawyer...it broke me widdle heart.
Then I saw "Outlaws." Oh, Sawyer. I held my breath when he was looking at the packet of info on the man who ruined his life--the actor who plays Sawyer is unbelievably good at flipping from boozy-floozy to intense in a heartbeat. Then when he got the gun and went to shoot the real Sawyer and didn't...I wanted to cry for him because he wanted to, but--in one of the most realistic touches in a show full of fairly funky doings even off the island--he just couldn't. I then laughed myself silly at him meeting up with Jack's father in some skanky Aussie dive and spluttered ridiculosly when I watched Jack's father talk him into killing the other guy! Way to screw up everybody's lives, Jack's Daddy!
Then, right when he's shot the guy and he takes out the letter, Bam! I was close to tears again. I knew he'd gotten the wrong guy, both instinctually from the set up of the ep and from what I'd been told, but I was so wrapped up in what he was doing, what release he was trying to take and wasn't going to get...le siiiiiiiigh...
Aside from that, Sawyer really jumped to the head of the castaways when he didn't torture Sayid. No offense to the truly repentant, but if I'd been tortured by some guy, even if he'd banished himself from all and sundry as penance, I wouldn't be too forgiving if I came across him again. That Sawyer not only doesn't take--well desereved--revenge on Sayid, was the bigger man in that moment, gah! Sawyer! The mega-tonberry hearting!!!
I'm still waiting on another Locke episode and the first Hurley ep, then I'll be alllllll happy!
In no particular order:
-- I am impressed to say that I am a little more forgiving of holier-than-thou Jack. I am a little less interested in his guilt-father complex after finding out what his father did that made Jack turn on him--love is well and good, but can you really be filial and pious to a man who killed a mother and unborn child due to gross negligence as a result of being too drunk to operate properly? Jack's mother putting all that guilt on him for "what he did" aka letting the hospital know his father was a drunkard? Not buying it, dearie. Your husband is a menace where he's expected to be a hero and, if not that, at least he ought to be a professional. If surgery and medicine were his life, what does it say to you that he's letting something else brush that all aside? Jack shouldn't feel guilty at all, really. He did the damn right thing and it wasn't easy. Still waiting on the episodes that will touch on his wife to be sure I forgive him for being such a whiney cry-ey baby in season 2.
-- Sayid wasn't really in love with Nadia, which makes his jump to Shannon a little less heinous. I'm still surprised that incompetance didn't merit the same kind of punishment as complicity in Nadia's escape--this is Hussein Iraq, where he flayed the feet of the Iraqi soccer team when they lost the World Cup/Olympics (not sure which). Letting go a terrorist/anti-government radical is going to be frowned upon and so too is negligence. I like him annoucning his intentions on Shannon to Boone, though I still wish he'd have put his loving in a better place.
--Boone's story made me like him a lot less. How either he or Sayid could be so far gone as to find anything Shannon does endearing is beyond me. Then again, a man who falls in love with his (step)sister isn't exactly expected to be all there in the first place. So he's an idiot and a freak. Do we find out what Sawyer was arrested for in the background of when Boone goes to the police to get Shannon's boy-toy arrested?
--I can't decide where I fall on the Jin/Sun debacle. He's willing to do anything for her, but he also wants to protect her from that which he must do in order to have her. She's patient enough to put up with his steady withdrawal and yet she doesn't push nearly enough to get him to open up to her (she nags, but she doesn't tell him she doesn't care what he's done only that she is concerned about him--if she'd come off more worried for than by him, much of their problems wouldn't have happened, methinks). It's a cheat that Jin didn't ever kill anyone, really, given how violent/tempermental he's portrayed as being. Where's his remorse for beating down Michael? Does that come later?
-Charlie's story made no sense. His brother was messing up his life with bad dames and drugs...so he starts doing the same? Felt bad about the gal friend he betrayed, but laughed my ass off when he vomited in the copier--we have that exact same one at work!
--Kate is really starting to irritate me. I like that she's uncanny resourceful and sly, which proves she can play games with the rest of the gang, but the differences between her and the others are still acres apart. She's not really a bad person, per se, as most of her illegal doings seem to be the fault of hanging with a bad crowd/bad luck. However, she's made loads of wrong decisions with how she treats the rest of the castaways, particularly Jack. Since he's privy to the most damning sort of misinformation, she ought to be as straight with him as she can instead of letting him get the wrong idea and then making him think worse of her by not sharing mundane information. I think what really bothers me about her is the fact that she acts all tough and is caustic and sarcastic and then crumples like a little girl and expects pity or mercy. When Ana-Lucia did that in last week's new episode, I believed it a cathartic release. Jack's got one coming, too. Kate, though, she whimpers and simpers and pouts and then smiles and flirts and tricks. I don't like the constant need to show her being regretful as a ploy to make us remember that, no matter what, she's not really a bad person.
--Contrast that to someone who is a bad person and does get my sympathies regardless: Sawyer. Holy hell, I cannot stop loving Sawyer. He's a jackass, and for a minute there in his first set of flashbacks, I thought they pushed the 'he's trying to make people hate him' thing too far (predictably, it was Kate who made that melodramatic conclusion). When he started being nicer to Hurley and appearing to give in (in his best interest, of course) to Jack, I found it cute but less enjoyable--Sawyer is best when he's at his most cantakerous. But the look in his eyes when Kate figures out that he wrote the letter to the real Sawyer...it broke me widdle heart.
Then I saw "Outlaws." Oh, Sawyer. I held my breath when he was looking at the packet of info on the man who ruined his life--the actor who plays Sawyer is unbelievably good at flipping from boozy-floozy to intense in a heartbeat. Then when he got the gun and went to shoot the real Sawyer and didn't...I wanted to cry for him because he wanted to, but--in one of the most realistic touches in a show full of fairly funky doings even off the island--he just couldn't. I then laughed myself silly at him meeting up with Jack's father in some skanky Aussie dive and spluttered ridiculosly when I watched Jack's father talk him into killing the other guy! Way to screw up everybody's lives, Jack's Daddy!
Then, right when he's shot the guy and he takes out the letter, Bam! I was close to tears again. I knew he'd gotten the wrong guy, both instinctually from the set up of the ep and from what I'd been told, but I was so wrapped up in what he was doing, what release he was trying to take and wasn't going to get...le siiiiiiiigh...
Aside from that, Sawyer really jumped to the head of the castaways when he didn't torture Sayid. No offense to the truly repentant, but if I'd been tortured by some guy, even if he'd banished himself from all and sundry as penance, I wouldn't be too forgiving if I came across him again. That Sawyer not only doesn't take--well desereved--revenge on Sayid, was the bigger man in that moment, gah! Sawyer! The mega-tonberry hearting!!!
I'm still waiting on another Locke episode and the first Hurley ep, then I'll be alllllll happy!
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Date: 2005-11-22 03:23 am (UTC)I'm glad you're making good time on the series...I have to convert some more people with that boxset :P