Admittedly, that's not a full argument. It doesn't promote the telekinetic aspect to Scott's powers more than it tears down the light-based argument on practicality. The genetic aspect, since it is necessarily fuzzy to allow for mutants in the first place, is a weaker link, perhaps. However, on my side is the visual that accompanies Scott's use of his powers. We constantly see characters who wield telekinetic abilities showing the use of their abilities as a color. Psylocke had a pink telekinetic knife when she and Jean swapped powers (it was still represented in color when it was only a psychic knife). Jean's powers are constantly illustrated with pink effects (or, if she's the Phoenix, as fire-tipped ones). This may be a romantic fallacy of a still frame medium, just to let you know the action is happening, but if you allow that to be the case, you would then have to allow Scott's beams, when illustrated, are much the same thing. Or, as I have argued heretofore, are in fact evidence of telekinetic beams. Why can the telekinetic beams be filtered by ruby quartz? Who knows? Unfortunately, to provide its heroes some hindrances and helps, Marvel allows certain realities to exist without question. Adamantium is not a ferrous metal, but Magneto can rip it from Wolverine's body. Likewise, Magneto's helmet is somehow telepathy-proof, as is Juggernaut's, and, though constructed materials, they are not widely duplicated. Collars can turn powers on or off. Cyclops' visor is just a way not to make him a functionally blind man. This may not be a proof either, but it's a leap of faith that is common enough in the Marvelverse that it is not entirely out of place.
There is probably a compromise to be found in E = m(c^2) to tell you the truth. If Cyclops' blasts are the force of molecules being moved with his mind through his eyes (perhaps he would have been able to use the force through other organs--groan--if not for the head injury?), he could generate light effects from the movement of mass provided it moved sufficiently fast. Or, if you go with your argument, provided his light beams actually travelled at the speed of light (highly unlikely in a non-vacuum, but no more so than a telekinetic exciting atoms to c in the first place), they could become massive and provide the force instead of the burn.
So, maybe, just maybe, neither one of us is wrong. Go figure. That crazy Einsteinian equation!
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Re: marvel geeking out
Date: 2006-01-25 09:21 pm (UTC)Admittedly, that's not a full argument. It doesn't promote the telekinetic aspect to Scott's powers more than it tears down the light-based argument on practicality. The genetic aspect, since it is necessarily fuzzy to allow for mutants in the first place, is a weaker link, perhaps. However, on my side is the visual that accompanies Scott's use of his powers. We constantly see characters who wield telekinetic abilities showing the use of their abilities as a color. Psylocke had a pink telekinetic knife when she and Jean swapped powers (it was still represented in color when it was only a psychic knife). Jean's powers are constantly illustrated with pink effects (or, if she's the Phoenix, as fire-tipped ones). This may be a romantic fallacy of a still frame medium, just to let you know the action is happening, but if you allow that to be the case, you would then have to allow Scott's beams, when illustrated, are much the same thing. Or, as I have argued heretofore, are in fact evidence of telekinetic beams.
Why can the telekinetic beams be filtered by ruby quartz? Who knows? Unfortunately, to provide its heroes some hindrances and helps, Marvel allows certain realities to exist without question. Adamantium is not a ferrous metal, but Magneto can rip it from Wolverine's body. Likewise, Magneto's helmet is somehow telepathy-proof, as is Juggernaut's, and, though constructed materials, they are not widely duplicated. Collars can turn powers on or off. Cyclops' visor is just a way not to make him a functionally blind man. This may not be a proof either, but it's a leap of faith that is common enough in the Marvelverse that it is not entirely out of place.
There is probably a compromise to be found in E = m(c^2) to tell you the truth. If Cyclops' blasts are the force of molecules being moved with his mind through his eyes (perhaps he would have been able to use the force through other organs--groan--if not for the head injury?), he could generate light effects from the movement of mass provided it moved sufficiently fast. Or, if you go with your argument, provided his light beams actually travelled at the speed of light (highly unlikely in a non-vacuum, but no more so than a telekinetic exciting atoms to c in the first place), they could become massive and provide the force instead of the burn.
So, maybe, just maybe, neither one of us is wrong. Go figure. That crazy Einsteinian equation!