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Oh, Sam Raimi, you tease!

Honestly, though, I wish more filmmakers worked like he does, tantalizing not tattling on what they're doing and how they're going to do it. I want to know lots about the movie, yes, but if I know where it's going before I get there, what's the point?

Good article, though. Raimi sounds like a very funny guy. Too bad his actors are all full of themselves (talking about their craft all the flipping time, what-ever, Kirsten Dunst--when you have "craft" I'll let you know).

Date: 2006-07-24 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ecmyers.livejournal.com
You should listen to some of Raimi's DVD commentaries--he's terrific. This movie looks like it's going to be a home run. His comments seemed tailored to reassure us that yes, this is going to be done right and we have nothing to worry about, while making sure the film will have some surprises for us.

Date: 2006-07-24 03:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I got a little worried there for a second when he talked about how Avi Arad wanted him to put Venom in--that reeks of studio interference, which is why X-Men: the Last Stand ended up blowing so hard core. But he seems convinced by the writers' work, the performance (I'd love to see Topher Grace really stretch to his best; he can be quite good when he tries, as he was in some key scenes in In Good Company), and the way it interweaves with what he's already set up. If he can sound so chipper about it, I can believe in him that much more.

Date: 2006-07-24 03:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
Heh...another day, another actress picked on by trinityvixen? Not that I have much reason to defend Kirsten Dunst but I haven't had any problem with her in the films yet (and she was good in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind).

Man, I bet if he'd okayed Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash they'd have made it by now. Raimi's reasons for turning it down made sense, but come on...wouldn't it have just been fun?

Date: 2006-07-24 04:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Kirsten Dunst has her niche, like Keira Knightly does. Whenever she strays outside it, she tends to fall down on her ass. Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind soared not because of her, though; I give that to the consummate (and ACTUAL) actress, Kate Winslet. What Dunst did in that film was play a vapid, melodramatic whiner, which she does just fine. Task her with playing someone who's supposed to be more responsible? More mature? She's not so hot at it. Love her in Drop Dead Gorgeous or Bring It On. Spare me from her in most other things. It's like trying to figure out why everyone on Smallville loves Lana Lang so damned much--how come Harry, Peter, or John Jameson think she's all that when she's just a whiny thing in Spider-Man and Spider-Man 2!? If not for the canonaical connection with Peter and MJ, I'd puke.

I don't hate every actress--I just tend to bitch about the ones I don't like as opposed to talking about the ones I do (because the ones I like don't irritate the crap out of me to the point where I must vent). With some friends the other day, I managed to come up with a nice list of actresses I like: Kate Winslet's on there, as is Rachel Weisz, Eliza Dushku, Emma Thompson, Meryl Streep, Rosario Dawson, any of the women on Battlestar Galactica (all of whom I have ranted about being so spectacular it makes me cry).

And Freddy v Jason v Ash would confirm that the former two really are as ridiculous as Ash, which might puncture the egos of the actors playing them (they take them a taaaaad seriously, but just a tad). But yes, it would have been awesomer than anything that ever awesomed.

Date: 2006-07-24 04:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
Those are good actresses, although I've seen Eliza Dushku in pretty much nothing that seems challenging (hanging onto the front of an army jet while Ahnuld tries to save you may be frightening but beyond that it doesn't require much acting per se.

Of COURSE Freddy and Jason are just as ridiculous as Ash...Freddy killed someone with a Nintendo Power Glove for heaven's sake. I think they have a good sense of humor about it, but they are just protective of it, as even Bruce is about Ash, since horror icons generally love the fans and love what they do, so they might come off as obsessive. Englund seemed sane on the FvJ commentary, anyway. I have to reveal, at this point, that I wrote a 50+ page version of the Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash that I had in my head...

Date: 2006-07-24 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Ahh, not a Buffy fan then, I take it? Dusku was amazing in that. She did tough girl, which, again, is sort of her niche, but she really sells it, and she sells weakness as well as she does strength. Check out Wrong Turn--which is a guilty pleasure and a half, sure, but you'll believe that she's terrified when she screams and kicks and cries. Even when she's trying to be tough...

Englund is insane. No matter what. He sounded lucid on the commentary, that doesn't equal sane. The man scares me more than Freddy ever did or could. The scariest part of New Nightmare is the idea of him becoming Freddy in real life--he doesn't need that kind of power.

And there was a script for F/J/A out there somewhere. I'm sure I have a copy of it somewhere. Don't be ashamed of writing the plot. It's just like fanfic--really hopeful fanfic.

Date: 2006-07-24 05:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
Yeah, it was like a fanfic. One of these days I'll go over it again...

The official treatment (and I'm guessing it was legit since it vanished mere days after being posted and unfortunately I'd already deleted it) appeared on Bloody-Disgusting. It was pretty bad.

It made more than a handful of mistakes. It connected itself to FvJ, a scene that would have been cool to see as a deleted scene but I don't think was neccesary in the film in which the two surviving teenagers from that movie meet a grisly end. Its two biggest mistakes, however, was insisting on the need for the teenagers in its story -- I promise you, you make Freddy vs. Jason vs. Ash and nobody in the universe is going to care about teenagers. Even worse, they forced Ash to partner up with a bunch of them, who got picked off one by one. The main teenager, some girl who was apparently being set up as a love interest for Ash, managed to stay out of harm's way time and time again. The most disappointing thing about the script, however, was that it had no effort or originality put into it -- you have to learn what makes Ash cool and continue that. Instead the script just took his already-used catchphrases and peppered the treatment with them. I'm guessing had the picture been made, new lines would have been written at the request of both Raimi and Bruce but it was disappointing to read.

Date: 2006-07-24 05:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Yeah, I never read the treatment. Ash doesn't need that shit anyway. He needs to retire peacefully.

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