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trinityvixenHeroes last night deserves this icon. Because, seriously? Dude.
I never really enjoy watching super-healers put themselves back together. Really don't, actually. If I wanted to watch Claire and Peter pull themselves back together after being broken horribly, I'd have enjoyed last night's climax a bit more. As was, ewwwwwwwwww.
Not to mention that I think Peter is already the most guilty (after maybe Matt) of having powers that are incredibly ill-defined limits-wise. It's going to be what's convenient for the writers, obviously. Peter had to touch Nathan before he flew when he fell down in the alley, but on the roof, physically distant from Nathan, he was able to float long after his earlier leeching should have worn off. Duration of ability and Peter's mastery of it are totally, no pun intended, up in the air. He touched Claire and was able to heal himself maybe ten minutes later completely after what should have been a fatal fall (I assume he broke Sylar's fall because how else did he survive it?) even though their contact was minimal and fleeting. Mrmmm.
Not that I didn't love the long-awaited confrontation with Sylar. This show is being praised for its pacing, but I really think it's going way too slowly, and with Hiro being in the past as the focus of the next episode, I'm not sure that's going to get better. I actually loved Eden talking Sylar down. Loved it. She's annoyed the piss out of me the whole way--probably because her cupie-pie act was featured in the Mohinder segments, which are annoying in their own right--but I'm digging on her being an autosuggestive. Mostly because I'm totally in love with anyone who has a power that, if stolen by Sylar, would make him that much more frightening. He's already nearly impossible to beat down, even for supers, and if he could talk them into letting him cut their heads off...dude...
Otherwise, not much else to say here except I don't know what they're trying to set Isaac up as. His future predictions, to a painting, have all come true. They don't tell the whole truth, yes, but they have all come true, which bodes ill for the one on his gallery floor (whole truth or not, there's little room for subtlety or manuevering when an atomic bomb decimates New York City). If the paintings can't be thwarted--the old Oedipus struggle to change the future being the reason it comes true--then woo boy, we be fucked.
Blink and you'd have missed: ikiN! Hi, ikiN! Bye, ikiN! Micah, still likeable, if getting a bit shrill. I wonder if he's got it in for his dad or what. Because he clearly knows when Jessica is on the line, yet convinced his Dad to go back. If Niki told him to knowing what Jessica was about--drama. If Jessica fooled Micah--tragedy. If Jessica didn't fool Micah--fucking awesome going, Micah. DL is way less interesting than your psychotic mother. Time to pick sides. Also, hi Nathan! Bye Nathan! I really don't like that he sabotaged the painting (uh, hello, dude, that's on loan to you and was probably really expensive), especially since I believe he had the right reason to do so (somewhere under Adrian Pasdar's fine, furious features, he plays Nathan as keeping genuine affection for Peter). It made it seem like Nathan was out for himself again, but I really do think he was trying to protect Peter. There was only one way to read that painting, and if you knew it would set off your brother to try and make it come true...Okay, that made it sound self-interested again, but I didn't mean for it to. It's just that Nathan keeps his human emotions so close to the vest, it's hard to see he actually cares.
Watched the latest Torchwood, too. I'm not sure what I think. It's definitely better than the week before, but I still don't buy what they're trying to do with Jack's character. If I hadn't seen Doctor Who before this (which, to be fair, you don't need to at all to understand everything going on), I would probably be okay with it. As is, it contradicts the Jack Harkness they introduced on that show first and makes him into some schizo Jack. It does not help that I don't think John Barrowman does dark very well. You can be tough and not dark, as Jack was originally, and he excels at being shamelessly flirty and falsely shallow, suggesting self-respect and -knowledge that run a lot deeper than the characterizations being flung at him in Torchwood that just aren't sticking. Whatever happened for however long Jack was on Earth after leaving at the end of Doctor Who had better be something incredible or this is going to piss me off royally.
I never really enjoy watching super-healers put themselves back together. Really don't, actually. If I wanted to watch Claire and Peter pull themselves back together after being broken horribly, I'd have enjoyed last night's climax a bit more. As was, ewwwwwwwwww.
Not to mention that I think Peter is already the most guilty (after maybe Matt) of having powers that are incredibly ill-defined limits-wise. It's going to be what's convenient for the writers, obviously. Peter had to touch Nathan before he flew when he fell down in the alley, but on the roof, physically distant from Nathan, he was able to float long after his earlier leeching should have worn off. Duration of ability and Peter's mastery of it are totally, no pun intended, up in the air. He touched Claire and was able to heal himself maybe ten minutes later completely after what should have been a fatal fall (I assume he broke Sylar's fall because how else did he survive it?) even though their contact was minimal and fleeting. Mrmmm.
Not that I didn't love the long-awaited confrontation with Sylar. This show is being praised for its pacing, but I really think it's going way too slowly, and with Hiro being in the past as the focus of the next episode, I'm not sure that's going to get better. I actually loved Eden talking Sylar down. Loved it. She's annoyed the piss out of me the whole way--probably because her cupie-pie act was featured in the Mohinder segments, which are annoying in their own right--but I'm digging on her being an autosuggestive. Mostly because I'm totally in love with anyone who has a power that, if stolen by Sylar, would make him that much more frightening. He's already nearly impossible to beat down, even for supers, and if he could talk them into letting him cut their heads off...dude...
Otherwise, not much else to say here except I don't know what they're trying to set Isaac up as. His future predictions, to a painting, have all come true. They don't tell the whole truth, yes, but they have all come true, which bodes ill for the one on his gallery floor (whole truth or not, there's little room for subtlety or manuevering when an atomic bomb decimates New York City). If the paintings can't be thwarted--the old Oedipus struggle to change the future being the reason it comes true--then woo boy, we be fucked.
Blink and you'd have missed: ikiN! Hi, ikiN! Bye, ikiN! Micah, still likeable, if getting a bit shrill. I wonder if he's got it in for his dad or what. Because he clearly knows when Jessica is on the line, yet convinced his Dad to go back. If Niki told him to knowing what Jessica was about--drama. If Jessica fooled Micah--tragedy. If Jessica didn't fool Micah--fucking awesome going, Micah. DL is way less interesting than your psychotic mother. Time to pick sides. Also, hi Nathan! Bye Nathan! I really don't like that he sabotaged the painting (uh, hello, dude, that's on loan to you and was probably really expensive), especially since I believe he had the right reason to do so (somewhere under Adrian Pasdar's fine, furious features, he plays Nathan as keeping genuine affection for Peter). It made it seem like Nathan was out for himself again, but I really do think he was trying to protect Peter. There was only one way to read that painting, and if you knew it would set off your brother to try and make it come true...Okay, that made it sound self-interested again, but I didn't mean for it to. It's just that Nathan keeps his human emotions so close to the vest, it's hard to see he actually cares.
Watched the latest Torchwood, too. I'm not sure what I think. It's definitely better than the week before, but I still don't buy what they're trying to do with Jack's character. If I hadn't seen Doctor Who before this (which, to be fair, you don't need to at all to understand everything going on), I would probably be okay with it. As is, it contradicts the Jack Harkness they introduced on that show first and makes him into some schizo Jack. It does not help that I don't think John Barrowman does dark very well. You can be tough and not dark, as Jack was originally, and he excels at being shamelessly flirty and falsely shallow, suggesting self-respect and -knowledge that run a lot deeper than the characterizations being flung at him in Torchwood that just aren't sticking. Whatever happened for however long Jack was on Earth after leaving at the end of Doctor Who had better be something incredible or this is going to piss me off royally.
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Date: 2006-11-21 04:06 pm (UTC)As for Sylar's survival, well he has flown and we've seen telekinetic abilities. Peter caught him off guard and added mass so Sylar could not prevent the fall completely; but he could have softened the hit to within survivable levels (as would be explained by the lack of blood pool under Sylar vs. what was under Peter).
Poor Hiro. It's rather obvious what lesson he is going to be made to learn next week. It's going to be painful, really really painful. But if it unfolds like I think it will then it will leave me with a great sense of respect for the character of that waitress.
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Date: 2006-11-21 04:36 pm (UTC)It's like being around the supers makes Peter able to copycat, only he isn't able to with Hiro (Hiro told him he could travel in time, too, so it's not like he couldn't have tried himself) and he's not flying around Nathan but for the roof. Flight wears off when Nathan lets go, but superhealing stays with long after Claire has gone away. In fact, Peter heals miraculously given that he barely hand contact with Claire. And, if contact isn't necessary, why didn't he absorb any of the powers that Sylar used to keep himself from bleeding out? Because he would not only have been near but was also in contact with Sylar, which you think would make his abilities that much stronger.
Note, though, we haven't seen Sylar fly. We've seen him cover large distances in a single bound, sure, but not flight. Just as we don't know how he evaded or healed or deflected gun shots when Matt fired on him, we don't know he can fly. We do know telekinesis, and that's it. If he used that on Peter to throw him harder into the ground or if Peter couldn't juggle two abilities at once, maybe he stuck with Claire's (that would also be another element of confusion for Peter as he's never shown conscious control over what he does/picks up).
And Hiro, I think, is going to be taught the lesson of nothing changes, seeing as Isaac's paintings are shown to be infallible to this point. It's also possible that they didn't save the right cheerleader...
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Date: 2006-11-21 05:20 pm (UTC)Peter was around Claire longer than futureHiro. Plus Peter never had physical contact with futureHiro as well. Not to mention he didn't try to unfreeze or bend time while futureHiro was around in the first place (it is possible that Peter wasn't frozen in time because he had some of futureHiro's power). With so many unknowns with that encounter it makes for a horrible case for Peter's ability.
Peter and Claire first encountered each other in front of the trophy case (prior to Claire changing into her outfit). Peter never went down by the field, but rather stayed near the school during that time (when the clock just changed to one minute after the hour). One could claim that he may not have been far enough away from Claire to stop the absorption process (although it would have slowed down quite a bit). Cut away to later when Claire bumps into Peter while running from Sylar. Peter grabs her by the hand to run away with her down the hall (continuous contact for up to a minute). Now finally, as I mentioned earlier, Claire was standing over him when suddenly he revived and then started putting himself back together again. This is not unlike when he jumped off the roof and after his brother caught him started flying on his own. The self preservation instinct of the body could easily have sped up the power replication process. All this fits Peter's profile of power use up to the point of this last eps. I don't see how events of last night go against this at all. Peter's contact with Sylar was far more limited and was mostly just the dive off the roof (again Peter could have had some of Sylar's abilities but was too focused on putting himself back together again to have noticed).
Hiro's lesson will be a far more painful one than the "infallible" nature of Isaccs paintings. I'm taking something that futureHiro said as a hint as to what this will be. I'm also taking her ability into account as to how it will go down. Since Hiro's little trip back in time to visit someone with a perfect memory played out the way it did I imagine that there was a reason why her interactions with Hiro were the way they were.
No I respond whenever I think I have something to add. I've noticed that you and I over have different views as to what actually happened sometimes. I find it helpful for catching things I may have missed.
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Date: 2006-11-21 05:39 pm (UTC)Basically, Peter's power is ill-defined in the extreme given its illusory nature. He can't consciously control it; there has been evidence that extreme emotional stress will trigger it; yet he able to master anyone else's powers that he syncs with while the issues of time/space/contact remain uncertain. The part where he can do what they can no matter what and with perfect knowledge is actually more irritating to me than the writer's-choice way that the range/scope of his power is determined. Because, assuming he absorbed enough from Claire before and after his fall to survive it, he reacted rather nonchalantly to being twisted and broken in half and in a half-dozen places besides. He just started to put himself back together. He had not seen Claire do that--only Sylar had. I'd love to know how he knew and knew it would be all right--is he like Rogue in that he gets some of the knowledge/personality that the others have in addition to ability? It's not consistently shown as such...
If you're implying, by the by, that the waitress still dies, and that she was pretending not to notice who Hiro was, I dunno what to say to that. Hiro did change something, was shown to have done with the picture. The memorial being fresh in the cafe suggests Charlie didn't live any longer or die any sooner, so where are those weeks between? More than that, I just didn't get that subtle read of her when she introduced herself. They can do a sort of ret-con to make it so, but the original performance was not so nuanced.
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Date: 2006-11-21 07:05 pm (UTC)Um.... er...... thanks?
I'm not sure if Hiro did change anything or just fell into the part he was suppose to play in the time line. The memorial was built out of old photos of which Hiro was in one. Also the only person on staff who knew Hiro was the older waitress (possible the morning waitress was a new hire and after finding the body of a co-worker like that she ain't coming in for a long time). Since Charlie has a perfect memory, she could have simply played out the role Hiro coached her to play towards his younger self. She did get really friendly with Hiro in a very short time span. Also remember that she said she only picked up the Japanese phrase book about a week before their meeting (with Hiro being said to have disappeared 2 weeks ago). Plus do not forget futureHiro's concern about affecting the time line too much.
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Date: 2006-11-22 01:26 am (UTC)I'm pretty sure Sylar has healing power. Matt shot him 6 times, and he got back up and flew away. He's supposed to be "patient zero" or whatever, and it seems like he's got powers a lot like many of the others (flight, healing, some kind of telepathy).
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Date: 2006-11-22 02:26 am (UTC)