Can't leave well enough alone

[trinityvixen]

It's nearly 3 am, and I'm going to bed. I just want to refresh this page and check on Prop 8 about thirty more times. It's breaking my heart how these initiatives have support enough to pass pretty much across the country. I am glad about the South Dakota abortion ban going down. That seemed a lot closer not too long ago. Here's hoping it stays dead this time. Why can't I just be happy that Obama won? Because I'm still waiting for the rug to get pulled out. I'm thrilled to the point of being stunned, but still hesitant, and nonsense like Prop 8 is probably why.

I'm sorry, humanity. Good news is maybe New York will start wedding couples in matching wedding gear. Oh please oh please oh please, let us let our gays get married. Let us marry other states' gays. As someone said at our election party tonight, "Mandatory gay marriage for all!" Okay, maybe not, but hey, freaking human civil rights, yo. Let's spread that good mojo around. President-Elect Too Cool To Be True said we're supposed to! And we all get puppies, too!

Last bit of insanity before I just go crash: FREAKING NORTH CAROLINA!!!! I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU TO BE OFFICIALLY DECLARED ALL NIGHT. 100% of precincts reporting in, and still you tease me with the not-deciding. COME ON. Montana, sorry to lose you, but I can't say I'm surprised.

Comments

[saikogrrl.livejournal.com]

prop 8 sucks. They can't be content to already have more rights they have to take away other people's too... And I thought California was left wing? At this point we need to listen to that song I just heard on the radio by lily Allen "Fuck you very very much".

[shell524.livejournal.com]

Yeah. I went to bed heartily disappointed in how effective the fucking anti-gay-marriage crowd is at getting people to vote their way. Almost every state in the entire country that's ever proposed at gay-marriage ban has passed it. California even POLLED almost completely OPPOSITE of what ended up happening. Either people are fucking liars, or the ones they poll aren't the Jesus Freaks who end up voting.

At the end of it all, I'm left wondering how these bans will ever get overturned, and if they will. Because they're so viciously WRONG.

[chuckro.livejournal.com]

I suspect it's going to end up at the supreme court in a few years: Since states are supposed to recognize marriages performed in other states, it's only a matter of time until somebody moves and happens to be rich and powerful enough to push the issue.

[edgehopper.livejournal.com]

It'll probably end up at SCOTUS, but they'll probably affirm the status quo. States have always been allowed to refuse to recognize marriages they find morally abhorrent. It's also worth noting that while the new Democratic majority is based on ethnic minorities, it's those minorities that provide the most reliable opposition to gay marriage. Polling shows that Prop 8 lost about 55-45 among whites, and won about 70-30 among blacks and hispanics. So, it'll probably remain a state-by-state issue, and mostly limited to places like the Pacific Northwest and the New England/Atlantic regions. I expect New York to pass gay marriage legislatively soon, though--that'll be a great day.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, California is left wing, but mostly in the cities, and they couldn't carry the state. There's also a sizeable bit of backlash against places like San Francisco where people are irritated or tired by the antics of the Castro district being how people know San Francisco. Some people might just not have voted on it, not particularly caring, but fuck it all. Stupid fucking Mormons threw money at this and got their way. Can't they just stay in Utah and suck there?

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I'm still worried about what happens to the couples who already got married. California needs to fix its stupid Constitutional amendment process, damn it.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I dunno, maybe by the time it gets to SCOTUS we'll have moved out of the dark ages enough to recognize Loving v Virginia-style justice on this issue. Long shot, but it would be nice.

[jendaby.livejournal.com]

I have been in a hopeful happy shell shock since last night. Part of me expected to wake up and find the news had reversed, as it had in 2000. I am pleased to see that Obama is, indeed going to be president! It is finally sinking in! :)

I was SO happy that nasty, evil Serphin Maltese lost his seat to a Democrat! Woot! No more nonsense trying to scare us into believing that we cannot allow sex education in school because they will make Kindergarteners "play doctor" etc., no more ridiculous hateful stance on choice. *sigh of relief* This was a big race in our district.

I have been checking in anxiously on Prop H8 too - and I am so sickened by the news that several large fundamentalist groups actually picked up and moved to CA just to try and push this through. :/

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I can't believe that ANYONE can look at the pictures of long-term same-sex couples who've been waiting forever to get married being married and celebrating and crying and go "That shit needs to stop. It's threatening my marriage."

According to people I was with last night, the California constitution requires only a majority to be re-written. Could Prop 8 be overridden? I don't know, but I would hope so.

As for the Senate: Fuck yeah, no more Liddy Dole. It reminds me of the "free advice for the GOP" soundbite I saw today: "stop fucking lying all the damned time."

[umeyard.livejournal.com]

NC scared me this election. The fact that if they should raise the age of sexual consent from being 14 to 16 was an issue....

No really, that was on their ballot this year.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Never fails--skirt-chasing initiatives always bring out the crazies....

[umeyard.livejournal.com]

Actually I stand corrected btw, It was SOUTH carolina...not sure that really makes a difference....well unless your from NC :)