Fandom meme!

[trinityvixen]

I lack this thing you call sub...subtle...something about not blaring one's opinion, loudly and often. So this is a perfect meme for me because I will be unfailingly honest. My hand to the Great Noodly One's appendage.

Name a fandom, and I'll give you the scoop on at least three of my unpopular opinions related to that fandom.

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[equustel.livejournal.com]

Oh boy! This meme sounds awesome. I may have to post it up, too.

Hmm. I want your unpopular opinions on: Nolan's Batfilms. C'mon, give it!

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Ooh, good one. Okay, let's see...

1) I enjoyed Batman Begins more than I did The Dark Knight. I recognize the merits of the latter, and it was damned impressive, but Begins was more coherent and captivating. I just prefer the origin story, I guess.

2) I didn't like the score for either film. I found them weak and unmoving, especially compared to Danny Elfman's score for the Burton films.

3) I didn't want Harvey Dent to turn into Two-Face in The Dark Knight. It made the movie over-long and over-crowded. I wanted his turning to be left open-ended, with the expectation that he would go there.

[equustel.livejournal.com]

1) I'm with you there. As much as I love TDK, it's ultimately a big city/crime drama; I prefer the mythic sweep of Begins.

2) That's understandable. Luke has similar reservations about the new scores. But I don't think something big and bombastic like Burton's scores would've been appropriate for Nolan's world, so I love the approach Zimmer/Howard took. Some of the cues are just beautiful - I even own sheet music for one of them. Again, though, I think I prefer Begins' score to TDK's, which really didn't introduce anything new (other than a lovely, subtle theme for Harv).

3) So much of my desire for the third film died when Harvey did. WASTED POTENTIAL. I think his transformation was done about as well as it could be, given how much was going on in that film, but I agree that it should've been waited on. Because Two-Face is more than capable of carrying a whole narrative on his shoulders if you set him up right. Sad, sad.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I liked the meet-up between Two-Face and the Joker, oddly enough, but there wasn't a good resolution of Harvey Dent's story. He deserved better. It just made me feel like he'd been thrown over for the easy out.

[saturn-shumba.livejournal.com]

In reference to your default icon...Doctor Who. Specifically, Russell T. Davies Doctor Who.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Yay Who-dom!

1) I don't like David Tennant as the Doctor. I rolled with it okay for one season, but I find his mannerisms as the Doctor repetitive and obnoxious. He's supposedly polled as being the best Doctor since Tom Baker, but I'd say that Christopher Eccleston did more with less time than Tennant has done in three seasons.

2) I sided with Harriet Jones in "The Christmas Invasion." Because she's right--depending on the Doctor to rescue you all the time is a weak strategy for defending yourself and sort of anti-thetical the whole Davies-era "being a Companion makes you the best you that you can be" manifesto. Girlfriend learned to think for herself, and good on her.

3) Donna should have refused to go with the Doctor. I think it would have been a better finishing season for Tennant's Doctor to be grounded in the present or some other time maybe in the near future with Donna as his liason with the world, a la the Pertwee years. Donna was awesome for her season, don't get me wrong, but what Ten really needed was for someone to slap him and make him stop being googly-eyed crazy and focus for once. He needed her to make him sit still. (I feel like shouting "OSUWARI!" at him, except he's not Inu-Yasha.)

[saturn-shumba.livejournal.com]

I thought David Tennant was ah-MAZE-ing at first, but nowadays...I'm glad he's leaving. I had major love for Eccleston, was sad he was only around for one season.

And I'm TOTALLY with you on Donna. I don't really like the companions that are all "I want to stay with you forever!!!" because I feel like it demeans them somehow. I'm mostly referring to Rose and Donna here. I mean, what, does the Doctor have some sort of magical dick or something?!?! That's probably why Martha is my favorite companion and is actually my favorite new Who character of ALL TIME.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

It's funny you say you don't like the DOCTOR+ME 4EVR types since I never thought Donna was one but Martha was. I mean, yes, she walked away, but she also fell right into the Rose trap of being majorly in love (suddenly, with no explanation other than, well, duh, he's the Doctor SO I MUST LOVE HIM).

What annoyed me about Donna's going with the Doctor is that it totally undid her rather cogent point about "Hey, you're kind of a psychopath, maybe I shouldn't be around you." It also took her away from where she was making plenty good discovering alien secrets on Earth without him. Donna was doing fine on her own.

I'm more coherent in the morning (hopefully)

[saturn-shumba.livejournal.com]

but she also fell right into the Rose trap of being majorly in love

She did, gah. But I forgive her because she did walk away. And moved on. And had her own fun adventures with the Torchwood people. Rose never could seem to let go, and that's one of the things that really bothered me about her.

But you are so right about Donna. In the Runaway Bride she was all anti-Doctor and then, all of a sudden, she's not? All of a sudden, the Doctor is the one she let get away? Again with the magical dick here.

Also since I missed it earlier:

feel like shouting "OSUWARI!" at him, except he's not Inu-Yasha

Awesome.

Re: I'm more coherent in the morning (hopefully)

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I got so mad at Rose coming back. I didn't love the actress playing Martha, didn't love the character Martha, but I still found her return less annoying than Rose's. Rose needed to stay gone tragically, or her story didn't matter to me. Blah.

Re: I'm more coherent in the morning (hopefully)

[saturn-shumba.livejournal.com]

I think RTD felt the heat from the Doctor/Rose shipper's torches, which is why she came back (and why she got her own Doctor to boot.) NOT FAIR ROSE, NOT FAIR.

Re: I'm more coherent in the morning (hopefully)

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I still maintain that if Donna couldn't survive as a hybrid Time Lord, neither could the Blue!Ten. For starters, he should be going stark raving mad being stuck on one planet without the TARDIS. But he was as physically human as Donna was and still he got to stay. And be with Rose (GAG ME).

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

How about I give you MY three opinions about it:

1: People who neither watched original Who nor took up at least a passing look into it should shut up about everything forever.
2: Doctor/Rose is like a primate anthropologist banging a lemur (Doctor/Cpt. Jack is like banging an orangutan or chimpanzee).
3: It is entirely consistent with past characterization, timelines, statements, abilities, modus operandi, and Stated Who Facts About Gallifreyans for The Headmaster to be The Master.

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

re: my #2:
I just realized that I passed up a chance to make a "bonobos are giant sluts, and so is Jack" joke. Pretend that I made it, please.

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

Also, I don't feel like making my own post, so people should ask me here if they feel like it. Much like TV, it's unlikely to be informative (really, further informative), as I state my opinions about everything promptly, loudly, and often.

Even so, I have now hijacked this post. Deal with it, TV.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Given that only two people have asked me so far, don't hold your breath that your friends will come over here for you :)

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

Well, as long as I'm here.

Star Wars
Dexter
Classic Doctor Who

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Star Wars:
1) I still kinda like the Ewoks. That one scene where the one is trying to rouse his friend who died? I still get a little wibbly over.

2) The Emperor deserved to win. I'm sorry, he was smarter than everybody else. There's no way he should have lost. If you take into consideration the shit he was doing in the prequels, it's ridiculous that he ever lost.

3) I don't like The Clone Wars series. It's so humorless.

Dexter:
1) I don't want there to be any more serial killers on this show. I think having three people who conveniently get to like killing people around Dexter is ridiculous. Let Dexter go back to picking off random killers.

2) Totally contrary to #1, I'd love for Astor (Rita's daughter) to be trained by Dexter like he does in the books. I don't want her to be innocent and sweet. Her brother is too adorable to go down that road, but I think Astor would be the better monster for Dexter to train/worry about than his own kid.

3) I wish season three hadn't happened. It added nothing to the story.

Class Doctor Who:
1) I didn't love the Pertwee era.
2) I infinitely preferred Romana I to Romana II.
3) Daleks are fluffy-wuffy adorable in Old Skool Who. I can't be scared of them at all.

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

This is important: WHICH The Clone Wars series? The 2d was good, but didn't do it for me, I'm impressed as hell with the 3d series (don't let the movie discourage you).

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I only saw episodes from the 2D. I saw the movie, but the less said about that the better.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I don't hate on the non Old Skool Who-fans unless they're being obnoxious about how THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEE THE ORIGINAL SERIES, GAW-AWD. I mean, saying "I just don't have interest/never enjoyed that" is okay. It's very different from what's on now, and it's totally possible to like the one and not the other. (Likewise, I have no patience for the Old Skool Only crowd hating on the newbies. GET ALONG, FANDOM, OR SO HELP ME...)

I buy that the Doctor = love, but I, too, get the squick when it becomes sexual in any way. That Blue!Ten being with Rose makes me almost ill. (And shouldn't he be dead? If Donna couldn't be half-human, half-Time Lord, he shouldn't be able to, either. Not without going mad at least!)

Yes, dear, we all want Anthony Stewart Head to come back :P

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

They have to at least sample it -- it's perfectly acceptable to only like SF if it has annoying britpop losers and reality TV contestants, but at least look at the old stuff.

A half-human/half-gallifreyan would seem to have 1.5 hearts. 6 ventricles? Whatever.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I move through fandom a lot, and I don't demand that anyone see anything. You just can't make them a lot of the time. Would it be nice? Sure. But it just isn't worth listening to fan-brats. Anyone not willing to investigate old stuff after enjoying new stuff isn't worth interacting with anyway.

[chuckro.livejournal.com]

Do you even have "unpopular opinions" on Smallville? I thought things like hatin' on Lana were pretty mainstream.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Hmm, that's a good question. I know that hating Lana Lang is an unpopular opinion to express around the show creators, if not its (for lack of a better word) "fans." But let's see...

1) I am glad Lex Luthor is gone! I think he should have been off the show and out trying to conquer the world through finance et al. a few seasons ago. The tension between him and Clark was just about gone.

2)I like Lois Lane. That's not a terribly popular thing, but it's not really too unpopular. But I do, I like her. Not her stupid nose job, but I like how the actress plays her.

3) I don't mind the proto-JLA. Not just 'cause Oliver Queen's a hottie, but I actually like that they've been assembled on the show. A lot of their origins on the show were painfully stupid (Black Canary's was awful), but they're fun to have around occasionally.