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wellgull today after seeing Children of Men. I mentioned it was time to go home and watch something with sunshine and rainbows and unicorns because they'd counterbalance the depressing stuff from the movie.
wellgull: Unicorns are rapists!
I could explain it, but why ruin it? Also, before I left him andmoonlightalice on the platform, I called over my shoulder "You're a pervert!" like right into the face of a girl getting onto the train with me. Said woman kept giving me a silly grin whenever I looked over in her direction. She looked alarmingly like a hotter Princess Astra/Romana II, for reference (for the two, maybe, of you who will understand that). Oh yeah, smooooooth.
For the record, Children of Men is very good, well performed, and a bit bleak. Like Pan's Labyrinth, the violence in it was meant to shock you with both how gruesome it could be but also how real. In particular, the scene towards the end, there are people in awe of one of the heroes, and as you watch them bow and reach for the hero as divinity, there's this whole pause in the violence, but there isn't at the same time. One of the people bowing and looking on in awe is shot in the head, people go back to killing each other, only a moment for peace. Of course, the violence was intentionally referencing the situation in Iraq, both by association, homage, and just feel. As the main character runs around, the government shoots at anyone who isn't the government; factions shoot at one another and the army troops; people trying to surrender to one or another side are cut down; hiding space/cover is sparse and people bunch up cowering behind one another. Nothing makes sense. For no reason, off of no allegiance, no betrayal, people are murdered. People who determinedly stay out of it...can't. I find that more heartbreaking and compelling than the duplicated image of the prisoner from Abu Gharib standing with his arms out and a bag on his head. We get it, trust me.
wellgull today after seeing Children of Men. I mentioned it was time to go home and watch something with sunshine and rainbows and unicorns because they'd counterbalance the depressing stuff from the movie.wellgull: Unicorns are rapists!I could explain it, but why ruin it? Also, before I left him and
moonlightalice on the platform, I called over my shoulder "You're a pervert!" like right into the face of a girl getting onto the train with me. Said woman kept giving me a silly grin whenever I looked over in her direction. She looked alarmingly like a hotter Princess Astra/Romana II, for reference (for the two, maybe, of you who will understand that). Oh yeah, smooooooth.For the record, Children of Men is very good, well performed, and a bit bleak. Like Pan's Labyrinth, the violence in it was meant to shock you with both how gruesome it could be but also how real. In particular, the scene towards the end, there are people in awe of one of the heroes, and as you watch them bow and reach for the hero as divinity, there's this whole pause in the violence, but there isn't at the same time. One of the people bowing and looking on in awe is shot in the head, people go back to killing each other, only a moment for peace. Of course, the violence was intentionally referencing the situation in Iraq, both by association, homage, and just feel. As the main character runs around, the government shoots at anyone who isn't the government; factions shoot at one another and the army troops; people trying to surrender to one or another side are cut down; hiding space/cover is sparse and people bunch up cowering behind one another. Nothing makes sense. For no reason, off of no allegiance, no betrayal, people are murdered. People who determinedly stay out of it...can't. I find that more heartbreaking and compelling than the duplicated image of the prisoner from Abu Gharib standing with his arms out and a bag on his head. We get it, trust me.
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Date: 2007-01-17 03:36 pm (UTC)I don't think it would have to be war at first. There would be surging anger, rising levels of depression and frustration, lowered patience and tolerance. You'd start with people on the edge and the ones more prone to provocation and instability would spark off something. It's way too easy to get weapons, and then the government would roll out to protect the peace, and someone somewhere would get itchy with "the button," and yeah, so on and so forth. Seeing what infertillity and disppointment over not having children can do to normal people under normal, non-global-problem-related stress is convincing enough for me.
it's also the case that our present massive fertility probably will
That, I doubt anyone disagrees with. It's just that this movie was focused on the people, and people don't care about the planet, as we've proven. A better movie/book for you would be The Stand, which actually does mention how, with nine-tenths of humanity eliminated, nature starts to take back hers (and good for her!).
they'd practically *need* the suggested level of immigration to replace the folks blown up in the bombings or killed by the rampaging hordes..
Who knows in fantasy sci-fi? I think the xenophobia towards the