Finale Live-Blogging

[trinityvixen]

-"What do you want?"
"Breakfast?"

The reason Sylar and Mohinder broke up: Mo loves 'em and leaves 'em.

-Hah! Maya is too dumb for words. However, I wouldn't mind if she killed Molly. Sylar, please knock the bitch out.

-Hi, Nathan! Welcome back!

-Heeee!! Matt and Nathan totally shared a "Let's roll," head bob. This was roughly translated by me as, "Okay, I'm willing to play sky taxi." "Yes, let's make with the flying."

-Well done, Hiro. You jumped around right, but you let Peter talk too fucking much. Everyone fucking lets Peter talk to fucking much.

Commercial Commentary: FUCK NO, NICK LACHEY ISN'T A MUSICAL HOT-SHOT ANYTHING!

-Yeah, Claire, way to blow cover. Exactly what Daddy didn't want. And damn right, Mrs. Bennet: if Mr. B couldn't do it, no one can.

-And now she's crying. And so am I. FUCK YOU, CLAIRE. You made Daddy die and Mommy cry.

-Wow, Bob is a dick.

-Hah ha! Mr. Bennet is back in jail. I presume he'll mastermind yet another genius escape. I enjoy his fucking with Elle's head. Mr. Bennet is made of WIN.

-A virus does not "have side effects." It causes symptoms. Come on, show.

-Ugh, does Peter really have to love Caitlin? Can't he just feel really bad about abandoning her to Outbreak-land?

-Mohinder and Sylar, sittin' in a tree...

-Heh, Elle is internet porn-spying on Sylar. We have so much in common!!

-GAH! Gratuitous use of the word "hero" really starting to grate on my nerves goddamnit.

-Why does anyone question Micah's ability any more? Can anyone else explain how they have their powers any better?

-HEH!!!!! Nathan and Matt's rough landing!

-Oh West is back. Time for drama, is it?

-Oh Maya is back. Time for crap, is it? Molly, please tell her he is dead and let's get this over with and back to the Mohinder and Sylar hotness.

-ABOUT GODDAMN TIME!!! However, killing Maya without giving Sylar her abilities means that, much like Nikki and Paulo on LOST, all time spent on those two was A WASTE OF MY FUCKING TIME.

-I'll save you, Sylar. I'll save you three times in one night, if you know what I mean.

-Mr. B!!! NO!!!!! FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIXITFIXITFIXIT!!

-Peter, you are dumber than a box of very dull rocks.

-MATT YOU ROCK SO MUCH! FUCKING KILL PETER WITH YOUR BRAIN! Argh. This is why I hate Peter's powers so much. THERE NEED TO BE LIMITATIONS, DAMN IT.

-HAH! What the F is with Nathan's hair? I guess he was flying a lot. He needs to get a hat. It worked for the Rocketeer. Ooh, can that be Nathan's superhero name?

-Awww, Nathan said it! And his love has the power to un-dumbify Peter. GREATEST POWER EVER.

-Mm, melty virus. Gratuitous use of the helix, though.

-HAH! Elle gots shot at some more! She deserves it.

-It says something that Sylar is still able to whoop ass without any powers.

-Niki doesn't need powers; she has a mighty groin kick without them.

-Another heroic death? I think so. Way to go, Micah. Mommy's prize can go on the shelf next to Daddy's. No parents, but lots of decorative chotchkes.

-Hiro is HARD CORE. FUCK.

-No, Elle, I'm going to kill you. You not only saved Molly, you saved Maya and Mohinder, too, by not letting Hiro kill them.

-More accurate version of Nathan's speech to Peter, "You're such a fuck-up. If it weren't for the fact I am fucking you, I'd totally have you whacked. I'm Italian, you know."

-Hey, what did happen to Caitlin now?

-Nathan's coming out kind of pre-empts Claire's rebellion. Does this mean...

...oh noes. Um, linaerys is never watching this show again. Neither am I, I think.

-Okay, I will be watching, but under protest!

Comments

[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

LOL!!! You completely went tangent to the point I was trying to make (again =-þ ).

Ok boiled down: Peter is only as good using a power as the person was when he was exposed to him. So if someone had no real control over their ability at the time of exposure, Peter has no real control. This is very unlike Sylar who can continue to improve an ability past the levels the person he absorbed it from. Even with that limitation on Peter he doesn't quite "get it" right away. The more active one has to be to control an ability, the longer it take Peter to learn how to use it. So regeneration is easy due to it's passive nature, but Ted's radiation powers were next to impossible to learn in a timely fashion. Matt's "mind push" is a good example; where it took Peter a few hits to actually understand the new use of the TP power and push back (as seen by Peter's initial compliance to Matt's push).

The confinement issue, if Elle didn't keep visiting Peter then he wouldn't have picked up her power. Notice how Peter hasn't shown any signs of being a transmuter yet? Peter was close to the alchemist but was having his ability in check by meds. He didn't pick up his power. Confinement works so long as you don't keep giving them powers to work off of. Same went with Sylar. He was in check till you gave him something to munch on. For both Sylar and Peter, long term confinement can work so long as you put in place the proper controls in place.

MASTERS??? Tell me one ability that he has mastered on his own? Elle used shock on Peter enough times for him to figure that one out. Sylar loved to use TK on Peter whenever they met. The invisible guy had to tutor Peter in how to even switch between abilities. Peter can't master anything without tons of help.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Peter is only as good using a power as the person was when he was exposed to him. So if someone had no real control over their ability at the time of exposure, Peter has no real control.

From the example you give, you think Peter couldn't push out with telepathy until he reencountered Matt, who, by then had learned. Okay, so HOW is Peter limited again? Did he NOT immediately pick up that ability? Actually, he did. There's also no proof that only because they met after Matt improved that Peter couldn't have done it before he met Matt. He just never tried. Either way, if Peter can meet people and take their ability and then upgrade his absorbed abilities by meeting them again HE STILL HAS NO LIMITATIONS. You thought Supes was bad? Fuck.

The confinement issue, if Elle didn't keep visiting Peter then he wouldn't have picked up her power. Notice how Peter hasn't shown any signs of being a transmuter yet? Peter was close to the alchemist but was having his ability in check by meds.

Peter was on meds where the Alchemist was concerned, so that doesn't count as a limitation. The fact that you have to get Peter's permission to drug him makes drugging him almost an impossible limitation to enforce. Because he can read your thoughts (and now control them) so there's no way to get it to him WITHOUT his permission.

As for Elle? He only needed to meet her once. Peter hadn't even met Niki or DL and he had their powers in two seconds. Likewise, Peter met Sylar all of ONCE and then he had his teke. Which was also stolen and, if you wanted a limitation, right there that could've been it--that a power stolen by Sylar is not absorbable by Peter. They didn't do that.

We saw that confinement DOES NOT WORK, besides. Without the meds, Peter's fine to use all his stolen powers and run amok (or go be Adam's but buddy). Sylar had some trick to play dead and come back (another stolen ability?). He never actually got Eden's brain, so there's no "snack" of which you speak. Confinement is not a limitation specific to Peter or Sylar anyways. It does not strip them of their powers (proven), it does not hurt them (literally keeping them in a box does not physically injure them or affect their abilities).

Tell me one ability that he has mastered on his own?

Flight. Nathan hadn't gotten anywhere near as good (he didn't know he had it, for Christ's sake!) when Peter absorbed it. But who really even knows? By your system, you can never be sure when or where or how Peter improves or is just given something improved. By the by, I AM STILL PISSED ABOUT HIM BEING ABLE TO ABSORB "UPGRADES." That's even LESS of a limitation than the other. If he absorbed all the potential of an ability but had to spend, like the supers he copied, serious time working each one out and the limitations of each, then I would be less annoyed. But you say he can just meet them again once they've done the hard stuff and use the ability they've trained without doing a damned thing? HAAAATE.

[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

Ok first flight. Peter and Nathan were in such close contact for most of season one you can't say for sure that Peter improve before Nathan. Quite frankly there were signs that Nathan was practicing while off screen (look how natural he looked getting away from HRG and the Haitian). Peter showed flight first in screen time, but remember that he was seeing through Nathan's eyes when Nathan flew out of the car with his wife still in it. Nathan flew first in regards to the time line.

If you check the sniper test (see my LJ) Peter still score low enough not to be overpowered (wolverine scored higher on that scale). The season finale proves it. Supes on the other hand is still very very silly. Since Peter can get sniped easily, drugging him isn't a problem. Like you said, once drugged he can't really do much. So HRG can still kick Peter's butt any time he wanted (I'm not so sure the same can be said with Sylar). The Haitian, he can take both Sylar and Peter while laughing about it.

Yeah Peter is still limited. So far people have been dumb in how they handled him, luckily Peter is dumber then they are. Now if Peter ever gets a clue, then I might take another look to see if he really is overpowered.