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trinityvixenWorse, you were the same color as the guy ranting at other people of a different color, so you obviously think the same things as he does. AKA The bad faith trash-talking shit that passes for Op-Ed on the New York Times.
Apparently, according to William Kristol, going some place often enough means that you agree with, support, endorce and perhaps even wish to enforce the dogma being spouted at you. I went to church for twenty years of my life. Clearly, I believe all the horseshit I heard there. (And I went to liberal church, and I still called bullshit.)
But it's not even that. It's not just the tar-me-with-the-same-brush-as-the-guy-who-I-know's-worst-ever-thoughts-on-any-subject-you-please hit job. It's bullshit like OMG Obama is ambitious! He's calculating! He dares to claim young people support him!
Listen you diseased taint: no one who dares run for the presidency of the most arrogant fucking nation on the planet lacks ambition. They're going to wield the largest metaphorical phallic object in the world, they're gonna have to want it pretty goddamned bad. I don't fault anyone for being ambitious. Nothing wrong with ambition so long as it leads you to strive and succeed fairly. (A guiding analogy: be a Severus Snape, not a Tom Riddle.) I don't see Barack Obama carrying a cross on his shoulder, saying "Woe is me, I have to try to be president!" It's not conceit to think you might be good enough for the presidency, nor duplicity, nor hubris. (Unless, like our current president, you routinely say that you're not only good enough, that GOD HIMSELF has ordained you and smiles on all that you do. THAT is ego right there.)
And this is just fucking disgusting:
Now I’m actually a believer in the next generation, which one might call the 9/11 generation.
You know what, you odorous pig? I DON'T WANT MY GENERATION OR ANY OTHER TO BE REFERENCED BY THE GREATEST TERRORIST ACT EVER PERPETRATED ON AMERICAN SOIL. Why should we be defined by that? The thinking that led to 9/11 dominating everything we say, hear, or do was forced on younger generations by the old. The ones who beat the drums for wars we haven't been able to finish (or, as is the case in Afghanistan, just sorta given up on) were the kids who missed out on any war prior. The kids aren't constantly monkeying with the rainbow alert system (works for wars AND gays!); they're posting to MySpace (or LJ!). They are the MySpace generation if anything.
In short: Go back to sucking the conservate nutsack, Willaim Kristol. You must be getting some crazy good contact highs from it.
Apparently, according to William Kristol, going some place often enough means that you agree with, support, endorce and perhaps even wish to enforce the dogma being spouted at you. I went to church for twenty years of my life. Clearly, I believe all the horseshit I heard there. (And I went to liberal church, and I still called bullshit.)
But it's not even that. It's not just the tar-me-with-the-same-brush-as-the-guy-who-I-know's-worst-ever-thoughts-on-any-subject-you-please hit job. It's bullshit like OMG Obama is ambitious! He's calculating! He dares to claim young people support him!
Listen you diseased taint: no one who dares run for the presidency of the most arrogant fucking nation on the planet lacks ambition. They're going to wield the largest metaphorical phallic object in the world, they're gonna have to want it pretty goddamned bad. I don't fault anyone for being ambitious. Nothing wrong with ambition so long as it leads you to strive and succeed fairly. (A guiding analogy: be a Severus Snape, not a Tom Riddle.) I don't see Barack Obama carrying a cross on his shoulder, saying "Woe is me, I have to try to be president!" It's not conceit to think you might be good enough for the presidency, nor duplicity, nor hubris. (Unless, like our current president, you routinely say that you're not only good enough, that GOD HIMSELF has ordained you and smiles on all that you do. THAT is ego right there.)
And this is just fucking disgusting:
Now I’m actually a believer in the next generation, which one might call the 9/11 generation.
You know what, you odorous pig? I DON'T WANT MY GENERATION OR ANY OTHER TO BE REFERENCED BY THE GREATEST TERRORIST ACT EVER PERPETRATED ON AMERICAN SOIL. Why should we be defined by that? The thinking that led to 9/11 dominating everything we say, hear, or do was forced on younger generations by the old. The ones who beat the drums for wars we haven't been able to finish (or, as is the case in Afghanistan, just sorta given up on) were the kids who missed out on any war prior. The kids aren't constantly monkeying with the rainbow alert system (works for wars AND gays!); they're posting to MySpace (or LJ!). They are the MySpace generation if anything.
In short: Go back to sucking the conservate nutsack, Willaim Kristol. You must be getting some crazy good contact highs from it.
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Date: 2008-03-17 07:40 pm (UTC)Dude, two words: Hitler Youth. If you seriously were attempting to compare the Obama campaign to a fascistic movement, you completely derailed yourself because the Hitler Youth are not sufficiently separable--in forensic debating terms--from Nazis to not make the inference you made. Whether you meant only the fascistic indoctrination of children to love Hitler and not the fact that, alongside that, they were drafted into being junior members of the Nazi party, you had to work a lot harder than you did to make that separation. Besides which? I don't think you can separate the fascism out and leave the Nazism behind when talking about the Hitler Youth. No cherry-picking aspects of that movement--it was all about Hitler and the Nazi party.
As for Ann Althouse? If you listen to her anti-woman bleating, you'd already know she's full of shit. She calls herself a liberal while betraying liberal ideas by ridiculing them, the truly progressive people who pursue them, and toadying up to conservatives as the "reasonable liberal" (aka not liberal at all, just says she is so you wonder why all liberals can't talk like conservatives--er, Ann Althouse).
Fainting spells? Holy shit! Crowded, indoor places can sometimes cause people to get too hot and pass out! It happens everywhere. It's just getting attention because OMG it must be Obama making the Beatles girls of 2008 scream until their heads pop off. Also, how is that Obama promoting violence? They fainted, they got medical care. No one dragged them to a center of a room and chloroformed them.
The propaganda poster is a art project, part of a long running one. It has nothing to do with Obama other than having his face on it. The theme of the whole goddamned website is a meme on "Obey the {fill in the blank}." Did the conservative website mention, in the sentence with surely a thousand exclamation points, any of that? Art is by its nature going to be outrageous. And it is also, often, political. However, the Obey the Giant website also made "Obey the D" stickers for Tenacious D. Thus, Jack Black is a fascist, too.
And why is Michelle Obama's call to work hard, set aside cynicism (which is more damaging than helpful), encourage diversity and tolerance...bad? You posted that segment thinking that the call to abandon ignorance and the status quo is somehow hateful? It is perhaps forceful, but how is that any different from any other presidential candidate promising to do any other act of the impossible?
It's the "demand" part, right? Oh, she chose too strongly, there, surely. Obama's normal campaign rhetoric is much more embracing than forceful, which, because it doesn't make your point of Obama = fascist, you've ignored here. That article you linked to about the pastor was chock-full of it though.