Friday?! NOT FRIDAY
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trinityvixenIt's gotten bad when you've refreshed a forum so many times so quickly that not ONE of the 200+ threads has a new posting. Gaaaah.
So I'm going to prattle here about Battlestar some more. First off, some links. Now, normally, I am all about pretending that the actors on this show don't exist (only their characters do). It's unhealthy, sure, but it's something you have to do when you like a piece of fiction this much. Especially when the only other places you get to see these actors these days are on cancelled shit shows--Hi, Katee Sackhoff!--or Smallville. (I couldn't even look at the screen when Aaron Douglas was on. I got as far as THE GAYEST LINE ON THAT SHOW EVER--and that is saying A LOT, and then I went back to studying my lap.)
Anyway, some links made of awesome: Q&A sessions with Lucy Lawless and Michael Hogan. Lucy Lawless is giddy funny with her bit (she's wearing leather gloves! her favorite character is Chief Tyrol!), and Michael Hogan...
It's really, really jarring for the hardest hard-ass on the whole show to be so...so grandfatherly. He's like a cheerfully winking old man. Where the HELL does he pull Saul Tigh out of week to week?
And some more about "Six of One." Spoilers!
Something that I keep coming back to, given the direction next week seems to be going, is how calm the Chief is over being a Cylon. Plenty of forum posts have mentioned that this is probably due to the fact that he had his major freakout about possibly being a robot back at the end of season two. It caused him to flip out and beat the shit out of his future wife in his sleep. The fact that he eventually married Cally--that she could, after that, trust him and not fear him--speaks to something profound being entirely reconstructed in his character. Aside from being really, really gruff with his deck crew, the Chief is more Zen these days than a room full of Leobens. He led the engineering class in a strike that was still on the side of the angels. Amazing.
And he's the one to go, "Oh, bugger, guess we really are robots." I love that. In "Six of One," he comes in and the other three are running on paranoid highs the likes of which Hunter S. Thompson would envy and is just fatigued because they're pulling him out of bed to deal with their robot bullshit. It's such a contrast from how f'ed up everyone else is that the other three have nothing better to do than hang out in an abandoned closet waiting for him to show up. Whereas he has a kid to put to sleep and a wife to placate if his absence is noted.
Of course that makes him ripest for the plucking, dramatically, since he has the most to lose. But even after everything that's happened, he's still the most normal guy in the universe. He got married and had a kid. In the middle of a war. Against robots that look like people. As everyone else turned into an asshole. (Pardon, everyone else but like Anders and that guy who used to be in CIC. What's his name--Kelly? Who is probably dead because if you're not an asshole or not a robot, you die.)
It's just something that's tickled me up to this point. Possibly being a sleeper agent psychotic robot is a annoyance for the Chief. He's like, "All of my superiors constantly harass me to look into every little thing myself. As far as I know, we airlocked the only other guy who works for me who isn't my wife, which isn't making my list of chores shorter, thanks. I'm responsible for negotiating terms on behalf of the union which covers anyone who has to work who isn't in the military. And now I'm getting the hairy eyeball from my wife because I keep disappearing at odd hours to meet with at least one really hot chick. This robot thing? Not really helping much."
So I'm going to prattle here about Battlestar some more. First off, some links. Now, normally, I am all about pretending that the actors on this show don't exist (only their characters do). It's unhealthy, sure, but it's something you have to do when you like a piece of fiction this much. Especially when the only other places you get to see these actors these days are on cancelled shit shows--Hi, Katee Sackhoff!--or Smallville. (I couldn't even look at the screen when Aaron Douglas was on. I got as far as THE GAYEST LINE ON THAT SHOW EVER--and that is saying A LOT, and then I went back to studying my lap.)
Anyway, some links made of awesome: Q&A sessions with Lucy Lawless and Michael Hogan. Lucy Lawless is giddy funny with her bit (she's wearing leather gloves! her favorite character is Chief Tyrol!), and Michael Hogan...
It's really, really jarring for the hardest hard-ass on the whole show to be so...so grandfatherly. He's like a cheerfully winking old man. Where the HELL does he pull Saul Tigh out of week to week?
And some more about "Six of One." Spoilers!
Something that I keep coming back to, given the direction next week seems to be going, is how calm the Chief is over being a Cylon. Plenty of forum posts have mentioned that this is probably due to the fact that he had his major freakout about possibly being a robot back at the end of season two. It caused him to flip out and beat the shit out of his future wife in his sleep. The fact that he eventually married Cally--that she could, after that, trust him and not fear him--speaks to something profound being entirely reconstructed in his character. Aside from being really, really gruff with his deck crew, the Chief is more Zen these days than a room full of Leobens. He led the engineering class in a strike that was still on the side of the angels. Amazing.
And he's the one to go, "Oh, bugger, guess we really are robots." I love that. In "Six of One," he comes in and the other three are running on paranoid highs the likes of which Hunter S. Thompson would envy and is just fatigued because they're pulling him out of bed to deal with their robot bullshit. It's such a contrast from how f'ed up everyone else is that the other three have nothing better to do than hang out in an abandoned closet waiting for him to show up. Whereas he has a kid to put to sleep and a wife to placate if his absence is noted.
Of course that makes him ripest for the plucking, dramatically, since he has the most to lose. But even after everything that's happened, he's still the most normal guy in the universe. He got married and had a kid. In the middle of a war. Against robots that look like people. As everyone else turned into an asshole. (Pardon, everyone else but like Anders and that guy who used to be in CIC. What's his name--Kelly? Who is probably dead because if you're not an asshole or not a robot, you die.)
It's just something that's tickled me up to this point. Possibly being a sleeper agent psychotic robot is a annoyance for the Chief. He's like, "All of my superiors constantly harass me to look into every little thing myself. As far as I know, we airlocked the only other guy who works for me who isn't my wife, which isn't making my list of chores shorter, thanks. I'm responsible for negotiating terms on behalf of the union which covers anyone who has to work who isn't in the military. And now I'm getting the hairy eyeball from my wife because I keep disappearing at odd hours to meet with at least one really hot chick. This robot thing? Not really helping much."
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Date: 2008-04-16 10:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-04-16 10:32 pm (UTC)Haaaaay, wait a second, you're not being spoiled by reading these are you? I thought you didn't have cable.
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Date: 2008-04-17 02:04 am (UTC)B) I didn't read behind the cut.
C) I'm not actually following BSG at the moment. Though I may someday finish out the series, for now, my BSG consumption is done. I don't really care what's going on on the show.
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Date: 2008-04-17 02:09 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-04-16 10:09 pm (UTC)But I loves me the trinityvixen spammage.
Do not make me watch BSG. I refuse. I refuse.
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Date: 2008-04-16 10:35 pm (UTC)And, hey, I am watching Supernatural. Granted, slowly, and only one season so far, but I am watching! You should totally watch BSG. It's the space opera show for people who don't watch space opera. And it's got the best acting on TV bar none. ::tempts::
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Date: 2008-04-16 10:51 pm (UTC)Do not tempt me. I watch here and there, small snippets from the last marathon that was on. I get the idea that if anyone tried to make anyone on BSG pay too much for a muffler and/or brake job they would be very upset.
Plus, I'm still mad that Starbuck is a woman. I can't get past it.
Deal -- you watch SPN and post love and I will watch BSG and not go on about STARBUCK IS A WOMAN OMG.
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Date: 2008-04-16 11:40 pm (UTC)I love Ed Norton, actually. One of the most wistfully wonderful movies I've seen recently was The Illusionist, where he still came across as a romantic hero despite, erm, kinda being a jackass. There's plenty of movies I've watched and gone, "That was a waste of my time. Except for the parts with Ed Norton." I just don't think The Incredible Hulk is gonna be one of his shining moments.
Do not tempt me. I watch here and there, small snippets from the last marathon that was on. I get the idea that if anyone tried to make anyone on BSG pay too much for a muffler and/or brake job they would be very upset.
Oh man, that's a funny comment coming on the heels of the cast being on--in character--to do Letterman's Top Ten. One of the characters stepped forward to announce they'd be saving 15% on their insurance by switching to Geico. It's not funny, but it is now that you've made that joke completely separately. So, well done, you've rescued an unfunny bit!
Plus, I'm still mad that Starbuck is a woman. I can't get past it.
YOU SOUND LIKE MY FRAKKIN' BROTHER. I'm like, "D, watch BSG. It's awesome, and you'll love all the chicks in it."
Brother D: ::WHINES:: "But I liked the old series too much..." (HE WAS FOUR WHEN IT WAS OVER OHMYFINGGOD)
Seriously, you'll get over it. You'll wonder how you ever didn't think this show was the best thing ever.
Deal -- you watch SPN and post love and I will watch BSG and not go on about STARBUCK IS A WOMAN OMG.
::giggles:: Ah, therein lies the challenge. See, I watched the first season and I had mostly a sort of non-reaction to it. I mean, it wasn't so bad I turned it off (um, except for the episode with the killer ghost truck), but I couldn't throw myself at these guys for all the NUANCE OMG they put into things. In fact, reading recaps at brought more to my attention than just watching. I did find some of it credibly creepy, which is cool. And the blonde one's easy on the eyes, and I've watched worse shows for less.
So, I must say something positive when I get around to the next season? Oh boy. I was laughing my ass off at them getting hit by a truck out of nowhere at the end of last season. I was informed that this was the WRONG response and that Inappropriate Funny! was not why people like the show so much. (http://www.pinkraygun.com)
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Date: 2008-04-17 12:58 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2008-04-17 02:07 pm (UTC)