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This woman is spot-on about why women don't go to see so-called "women's movies."

"Amelia" has failed, as it happens. But if you want to know why, it might be more informative to watch the trailer. Every shot is burnished to a monotonous gold, there are period costumes and a booming score, and every other line out of Hilary Swank's mouth is something about freedom or overcoming obstacles or believing in dreams. (“It can't be done!” “Let's change that!” “No one has made it!” “I will!”) No matter how much you like strong female characters, this isn't interesting. And I'm reluctant to see any movie that looks this predictable and obvious out of some kind of womanly obligation. “Strength” can be just as bland as anything else – and just as limiting.

AMEN. I like to see things that are interesting. End of story. I can put up with sausage-fest superhero and action movies because they're about people turning into robots or being able to fly. These are relevant to my interests. Hilary Swank is not relevant to my interests, nor is her rah-rah retelling of Amelia Earhart's story. That biography is interesting, don't get me wrong, but it's been whitewashed to remove all controversy and pumped up with as much artificial girl power as the Spice Girls were. It's malarkey, and women, who--shock!--are human beings with the ability to sense bullshit, know better than to fall for that.

I really like her comment on "strength." I got into this with issues I had with female characters on Battlestar Galactica. I insisted that "toughness" did not a complex female character make, for all that allowing women to be physically or emotionally resilient was (sadly) fairly novel on television. Tough isn't necessarily interesting, and Sady Doyle understands that the "tough" girl is still a girl in a box. She's tough. End of story. It's like how Laura Roslin went from being harsh but human to an uncaring monster at her worst. The second you get lazy about characterization and lose the humanity of your character is the second they become caricatures. Unfortunately, this happens to female characters more often than males because we still write from a male-dominant point of view in most of our fiction. To create conflict for men, women have to be one note. As Hollywood et al. have tried to lure women in with women-centered movies, they've kept women as one-note. That's not an interesting thing to watch as 90% of the focus of a movie. It's not interesting when it's a dude, either, but because they assume women are starved for movies "about them" (like we're aliens or something) the think that women will watch anything where they don't have to be penis-whipped from all sides of the cast list.

What studios need to do is try the Alien experiment: write the story for a character. Then don't be afraid to cast it gender-blind. You'd be amazed at how awesome a female lead can be when you write her as human first, possessor of strange and unknowable girly-bits second.

Date: 2009-10-27 02:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I didn't spend money to go see The Aviator either, but that doesn't prove that I don't want to see movies with male leads playing ye olde timey people. (Or men in lead roles. Or Leo DiCaprio in particular.) I didn't go see that because it looked dull, end of story.

Date: 2009-10-27 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
The Aviator is actually phenomenal. There is a crash scene in it that is crazy and DiCaprio is really great. You could probably cut 15 minutes from it and it doesn't really have an ending, but...I would say specifically that I find its flaws to be less noticeable than those of The Departed.

Date: 2009-10-27 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
The point is The Aviator looked boring, so I didn't go see it. Ditto for Amelia. End of story.

Date: 2009-10-27 07:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
Yeah, yeah, both trailers sucked (if I remember The Aviator's correctly). I'm just saying, in that case, the ads were wrong, it's fast-paced and exciting.

Date: 2009-10-27 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
Amelia did look dull as dirt, though.

Date: 2009-10-28 02:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wellgull.livejournal.com
Seconded that The Aviator is actually really good.

Regarding this:
this happens to female characters more often than males because we still write from a male-dominant point of view in most of our fiction.
I had a sudden thought -- I think it might also be true to say that this happens to female characters more often than males, which is what defines the fact that we write from a male-dominant point of view. Or, like, if it weren't the case that female characters are one-note and flat, then we wouldn't have a male-dominated writing view. Maybe that's nutty...

Date: 2009-10-28 02:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I think you're putting the cart before the horse here. You wouldn't get female characters being one-note ninnies without a serious bias against writing actual female characters in the first place, you know?

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