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[trinityvixen]

A wonderful conversation about this maddening, obfuscating article about DADT

moonlightalice: oh god the NYT ran a pro-DADT op-ed
me: they waaaaa?
(goes to read linked article)
me: I love how he's like "But we kicked out fatties and no one complained!" Well, yes, because you're allowed to fire people who can't do the job. Point is that gay people CAN. That gayness doesn't automatically disqualify you. This is some seriously deluded BS.
moonlightalice: You haven't gotten to the end. "Individual performance is bullshit, it's about GROUPS." Yeah, because all those integrated units in every other country? They lose wars like crazy
moonlightalice: oh my GOD, he believes the military is "warrior culture"
me: I love how he's like "call me crazy for being an IDEALIST, but I like my military the way it is." Way to cloak yourself in purtiy, asshat
moonlightalice: And warrior culture must be PROTECTED
me: "Waaaaah, stop making me play with faaaaags. Blowing shit up and playing with phallic weapons isn't gay SHUT UP"
moonlightalice: lol
me: I mean, has this guy been far removed from "unit cohesion" or what? Does he not remember how fucking many dudes in the army are constantly waving their cocks around?
moonlightalice: haha "fucking many dudes in the army." I bet that's what he's scared of.
me: The army is already pretty gay, is what I'm saying.
me: These are the guys most insecure about their cocks. Having a gay guy there to go "Yep, that's a good cock" would probably IMPROVE things


I could probably point out more about how disingenuous all his arguments are, and how they all break down into a temper tantrum about how he doesn't want no gays in this man's army, but really, the logical contortion to make an excuse for why sexual orientation fundamentally alters your ability to kill shit is, well, tortured enough that I needn't bother going on about it, really.

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[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Yeah, the "ew, gays!" part of the military is definitely working on this bullshit idea that sex has no place in this man's army, when, in fact, the army is notorious for not only aggressive sexual behavior but by its incidents of sexual abuse and the way they attract prostitutes like flies to honey. It's just ridiculous that those far removed from being in the army imagine that shit doesn't still happen. Heteros are no less sexual than homos, which they seem to have forgotten. But since we define homosexuality as other, and, therefore, it is automatically about sex, it's "pushing it in our faces"!!!

Plus, there are people forced out under DADT who weren't not asked. That's a weird double-negative, but Rachel Maddow had a solider on who was, like four years ago, kicked out for being gay when his e-mails were snooped in on by people higher up. They found something they didn't like and kicked him out. They didn't ask him if he was gay, but they're not supposed to go looking for evidence that he is because that's basically the same thing. It's BS.