Yes, I'm still talking about Batman

[trinityvixen]

What makes it okay is last night coming home to catch up on our respective weekends away from the city with my roommate Lisa only to have us both get all giggly because we both saw Batman Begins on Friday. Lisa's pretty level-headed, but she was like "whoa, it was really good!" Therefore, someone with the obssessive tendencies I have can be forgiven for being so blown away.

Who can solve these mysteries?
1) Which arm did Bruce break in the beginning? 'Cause they both looked a bit too intact when he was flailing...
2) After his first night as Batman, Bruce has a bruise that circles his right bicep (and yes, even with Christian Bale shirtless, I noticed, all right!?). What could have done that? What in his actions or something we didn't see would have given him that bruise?
3) Who pays for the destruction to Gotham? Wayne Enterprises pick up that tab?
4) How will W.E. explain that they just happen to have the antidote to Crane's fear toxin in large batches? Do they get a tax write-off for that?
5) How the hell are they going to rebuild Wayne Manor without a contractor finding out/spilling the beans about the Batcave?

Comments

[viridian.livejournal.com]

BATMAN MOVIE LOVE YAYZ :::hearts::: !!!!1111111111

[hslayer.livejournal.com]

Answers:
1-5: This is what happens when it's based on a comic book.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Okay, I buy that for *some* of the answers, but it doesn't change #1 which could be answered with 'poor acting by a child.' Then again, I don't find injuries interesting unless inflicted upon hot, hot men. They're so cute when they're all helpless.

[hslayer.livejournal.com]

Well, if you'd like better answers for some of them...
1) Bad acting...or bad directing? Or did he just fake a broken arm because his daddy paid more attention to his philanthropy than to his son?
2) It's on the cutting room floor. You have to buy the DVD director's cut to see how he got that.
3) I suspect a lot of insurance companies will be going out of business. Whether a court would rule Ras or Scarecrow as responsible for "causing" people to go berserk or hold those people responsible or what probably doesn't matter too much. There may also be some federal disaster relief involved.
4) He'll say they work just that fast. He'll probably write it off along with all his other charitable contributions.
5) Kill him when he finishes.

X) From further down: his takeover didn't make the paper (yet) because no one had managed to trace the money. That was all before he revealed that he controlled all the organizations buying up the shares.

[xannoside.livejournal.com]

Sad thing is, not much of it was actually based on Year One or Tower of Babel. Most of it can be chalked up to David Goyer really not paying attention. If they had followed Year One to the letter, it wouldn't have been as flashy but it would have overall been a much better story.

Ah, well, at least there's a decent Batman movie out there, despite the flaws.

[hslayer.livejournal.com]

I didn't mean a specific comic book. If it isn't clear by now that I don't know Batman comics, and don't like the Batman character in most incarnations (take it as a sign that this was, in fact, a very good movie), I don't know how to make it clear....

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Okay, okay, well there mister, don't get huffy. If Goyer can write/steal something this good, I'm not about to look a gift horse in the mouth about these things, okay? (seeing as the plots of the Blade movies leave a lot more unexplained and don't get me started on The Crow: City of Angels again).

But yay! Comix! I'm ordering bunches online from the library. Batman out my ears. By the by, we still have you B:TAS. We'll get that back to you soon, promise.

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

1 - I noticed that too. I'm going to say he dislocated his shoulder. It would hurt like hell, but once he pulled Liam up, he could pop it back in. It would still hurt, but he could use it without too much problem.

2 - That bruise continued onto his chest. It looked like he'd been hit hard with a bar - most of the brunt on the arm, but also on the chest. I've still only seen it once, but I'm going to guess it was the failed leap attempt and him falling into the railing on the fire escape. Is that when it happened? If it was after the fight in the warehouse, it could have been somebody hitting him with a two-by-four.

3 - Bruce is a philanthropist like that. Again - no sense of collateral damage. And why didn't his hostile takeover of WE make the newspaper?

4 - Well, they have a nice scapegoat in the ex-CEO. I'm assuming they'll pin losing the ME on him, anyway, so they could blame the toxin on him as well. And I'm sure Gotham would get some sort of national disaster relief money. This was, after all, a fairly large-scale terrorist attack.

5 - Um, Lucius? Do you remember that episode of B:TAS where you meet Batman's mechanic? He does have some people semi in his confidence that he uses for the necessary support. So he could hire people as Batman, blindfold them and bring them to the site. I don't know.

[viridian.livejournal.com]

I think she meant when he fell down the well in #1. Was he supposed to have broken his arm at some other point in the movie?

[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

why didn't his hostile takeover of WE make the newspaper?

It did, on page 8. At least that's what I assume Alfred meant when he said Bruce made page 8.

[viridian.livejournal.com]

nooo, that was in reference to "Drunken Billionaire Burns Down Mansion"

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

That's what I thought at first, but the paper Alfred hands Bruce says:

Drunken Billionaire Burns Down Mansion

[viridian.livejournal.com]

maybe in the fine print it continued "... and buys back his father's company. Those wacky billionaires!"

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

Yes - funny how that works. Drunken playboy and extremely competent at the same time. The city was under terrorist attack and they still assume Wayne set the fire?

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Your answer for #1, while not the scene I meant, intrigues me. I wondered how he would have managed that. He was clearly in a lot of pain, the actual, breaking/tearing/dislocating injury type of pain (instead of the 'owie, overstretched myself' pain). My arms just hurt watching him haul a dead weight of easily 220-240 pounds one-handed. Hope it wasn't that broken arm...

2 happened after the warehouse because it made the papers whereas his stunt visiting Gordon was written off as a crazy trying to freak out the police. The explanations people made more or less make sense seeing as various ouch-making instruments were scattered around the defeated enemies when Batman finished flipping around like the blood-spattered Bride on steroids.

5) Yeah, sure, I buy *a* guy being in on the Bruce/Batman presto-change-o, but even Lucius wasn't really aware of Batman's alter-ego, was he? I don't think it was mentioned, he just worked on the Batmobile for Batman (and the Penguin tracked him down based on the spare parts he ordered, am I right? It's been a while). Contractors are something else. You gotta have fifteen different guys in there to do the plumbing, electricity, foundation, the framework, the brick/marble work (something Wayne Manor's gonna need a lot of) etc etc etc.

However, after thinking about it some more, it's possible that nothing major to the foundation (despite the joke between Bruce and Alfred) would have to be done. It looked like the bridging and flying buttresses of the manor that extended into the Batcave were untouched pretty much throughout. So maybe they can just build on top and Bruce and Alfred can worry about how to get in again later.

Still, how are they going to keep that little elevator shaft a secret? Unless it's filled with rubble now...

[bigscary.livejournal.com]

5) Yeah, sure, I buy *a* guy being in on the Bruce/Batman presto-change-o, but even Lucius wasn't really aware of Batman's alter-ego, was he? I don't think it was mentioned, he just worked on the Batmobile for Batman (and the Penguin tracked him down based on the spare parts he ordered, am I right? It's been a while). Contractors are something else. You gotta have fifteen different guys in there to do the plumbing, electricity, foundation, the framework, the brick/marble work (something Wayne Manor's gonna need a lot of) etc etc etc.

You're confusing lucius-lucius (not in on it, not a tech -- Bruce's man at WE) with "The Man Who Built the Batmobile".

And as for the reconstruction, it's not so bad -- the batcave is mostly unfinished, the top part of the entrance can be put in using standard "panic room" procedures ("I don't want anyone to know both parts. Put in the entrance and I'll get someone else for the room"), and a lot can be done with "I'll pay cash,but you have to ride in this enclosed truck and then move somewhere far away."

[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

1) I believe it was his right arm (at least I think he landed on his right side when he fell into the well.

2) It actually only covered his outer arm. When he lifts up his arm in that scene, you see some normal colored skin on the inner portions. Since he got it on his first night out, I am assuming that the bruises came from some of the equipment he was using. Then again it could have been a makeup artist that wasn't given too much direction with how the bruise was suppose to look.

5) Empty cave first. Then tell contractor that you just want to "change a few things in that place without disturbing much of the bats' habitat". Or you could claim that you want to make a few changes to make for a more interesting spelunking experience when you choose to come down there.

[teneda.livejournal.com]

1) I don't think it's ever specified in the comics, but from the way he fell I'd guess it was his left. Though, being right handed, he would have put his right arm out to brace himself primarily. So it's a toss up, really...

2) A bruise like that could have been from a ducking action as someone was going for his throat but got his bicep instead. You tuck your chin in to avoid the grab, and the arm comes up along side your neck to prevent the grab oof your throat fully. Unless there was some kind of rope/whip-based weapon involved, but I don't remember seeing any of those in the movie.

3) What? W.E. pay for that? W.E. is very generous, but it's not Stark Ent. I would think that repairs to the city of Gotham would be fixed and paid for the same way they would be here in NYC. By the taxpayers.

4) They never DID mention that they distributed the toxin. One would think that as an aside, they could have innoculated everyone in the Heights, but remember what Gordon said at the end, "The heights are...lost." So it's never said that W.E. has gone public with the fact of having the antidote, much less distributed it.

5) Simple, you tell the contractor that you want to do some research at home. With Lucius Fox as close a friend as he has undoubtedly become, and now seeing as things have "disappeared" from Applied Sciences. There are some things you'd rather keep to yourself. Where better than at your own home? So, you have the construction, wiring/lighting and plumbing done, and then you bring in the computers and things AFTER the initial construction.

*POOF*
*disappears to return to lurking*