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::hyperventilating::

Oh my. Oh-oh my! They are making a film version of Without Remorse.

But, but, but...I wanted Liev Schrieber to play John Clark!!! He's my absolute favorite Clancy character ever ever ever, and, much as The Sum of All Fears was a lame-ass movie (thank you fucking Ben Affleck), Liev Schreiber played John Clark so perfectly, it still gives me goosebumps. Joaquin Phoenix isn't a bad actor, but still. Le sigh. Missed opportunities.

And isn't it interesting that Rainbow Six looks like it will be made first? I guess that makes sense as Rainbow Six deals with terrorism (even better for the NRA-happy Republican government: they're evil eco-terrorists, so let's stick it to the greenies!) whereas Without Remorse, done poorly, could end up being just another A Man Apart-style tale of a revenging tough-guy type, and that's kind of a hard sell with the jaded movie-going public these days.

Ooh, but Rainbow Six is going to be directed by Zack Snyder, who is responsible for one of my favorite movies in recent history, the revamp of Dawn of the Dead. Oh, oh, oh! Who is also going to direct Watchmen!!!!! Now I know who to watch like a hawk lest he ruin one of my favorite characters of all time (Rorscach, in case anyone wants to spar about favorites).

Movie news! I love it!

Date: 2006-04-29 06:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slackwench.livejournal.com
I shouldn't be surprised, but I didn't realize anyone else had read Watchmen. I have the bound collection at home.

Date: 2006-04-29 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I only just read it last year, but I couldn't put it down. Up until the end, I was prepared to love it to pieces, but then the end...so unfortunate. I still love Rorschach to pieces. He's as crazy as crazy gets, but he's Batman-crazy. I hope the movie adaptation doesn't stray too far from the graphic novel, but I'm terribly afeared it will.

Then again, V for Vendetta came out just fine, possibly even better in some respects than the graphic novel. Maybe Hollywood will streamline some of the rambling narrative (hell, Alan Moore is gonna hate it anyway, so why not cut short a bit of his "genius" diversions?).

Date: 2006-04-29 06:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slackwench.livejournal.com
I didn't read it until last year either. My dad (who is awesome) got it for me for Christmakwanzhanudan. I read it on our subsequent 14 hour car trip (and finished it!)

Rorschach is a nutjob (more like V nutjob than Batman crazy), but a GREAT character. I think the characters are really what makes Watchmen. Every one of them has depth and personality, which a lot of comic book characters lack.

Something's gonna have to be cut for a movie version. But I think it'll lose some of its meaning if they cut too much of the narrative. Hopefully, someone with a good eye for detail will do the cutting.

Somehow, I completely missed that Vendetta and Watchmen were written by the same guy. Funny how I lent Watchmen to a friend after Vendetta reminded me of it.

Date: 2006-04-29 06:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Yeah the characters make the thing, that's the way of it. I find Doc Manhattan a tad irritating but he's a fascinating creature, so that's cool.

I'm hoping they don't make a total bad guy out of Mrmphmmm because that would reduce his/her sociopathic crusade to just wah wah wah evilness. I think they could get rid of the Night Owl Sr. plotline, but otherwise, I'm not sure what they could do to streamline it.

Yeah, Alan Moore. He's talented, sure, but he's also a tempermental genius-type, so I have a feeling in the right hands his stuff will be dynamite without the condescending preachy stuff. Then again, it could become another LXG and then I'd die a thousand deaths before it was over.

Date: 2006-04-29 11:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cbreakr.livejournal.com
I just read it a couple of weeks ago. It started out as the most amazing and haunting comic ever and then seemed to lose its edge until by the end it was just going through the motions of completing the plot. I think I had issue with it transforming into a superhero comic as it went along rather than keeping it on a more human scale.

Date: 2006-04-29 07:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sols-light.livejournal.com
I'd love them to do Alan Moore's Swamp Thing in some ways, but at the same time, I know they'd butcher it beyond belief in the translation. The same would be true of something like Sandman.

Date: 2006-04-29 01:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jethrien.livejournal.com
No, I think Swamp Thing and Sandman are both better off left unfilmed. I just can't see anything coming out of Hollywood that would do either justice.

Date: 2006-04-29 09:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stars-fell.livejournal.com
I remember trying to read Without Remorse when I was about eleven. I got less than a quarter of the way through it and gave up. :) And I am so with you on the Liev Schreiber and Dawn of the Dead love.

Date: 2006-04-29 12:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] linaerys.livejournal.com
I love the book of Without Remorse. I hear you on Liev, but Phoenix will probably do a good job.

Of course, I didn't even see Sum of All Fears because of my Affleck dislike.

Date: 2006-04-29 06:42 pm (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
It's very tough to stomach the Affleck. However, there are some LOVELY scenes where Liev Schreiber as Clark is making fun of Affleck as Ryan, which is meta-commentary at its best (I love making fun of Jack Ryan, the perfect little snot...grrr...sorry, ranting, just watched Clear and Present Danger). A Clark that's as Clark-like as cinema has any talent at giving us that's making fun of a particularly annoying Jack Ryan? Cinematic Gold.

Yay! Another Without Remorse fan! This is fantastic! Nobody else I know seems to know the book except for me talking about it and raving! Woo!

Date: 2006-04-29 06:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Erm, that was me.

Date: 2006-04-29 05:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
It just says Phoenix is rumored. Maybe Schreiber will free up his schedule. Certainly if he has time to waste on an Omen remake that looks, quite frankly, EXACTLY like the original, he should have time for John Clark.

Date: 2006-04-29 06:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I should hope so, but other people have commented that Phoenix would be good, and I will have to trust he can step into the role. I'm just worried about his read on the character. Joaquin Phoenix doesn't seem to do characters that aren't somewhat creepy. Clark is SCARY but not creepy...

Date: 2006-04-30 12:25 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] viridian.livejournal.com
Yo.

Changed my mind on Wal-Mart but cannot find your home phone number or a current email address anywhere.

Hopefully you get this - call me if you do, I'll drag myself out after all.

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