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Really, you think? Stalemate, you say?

What worries me most about this goddamned format war piece of shit nonsense? It affects the next-gen console I would most want to own: the PlayStation 3. I could give a good goddamn what the XBOX 360 has, and the Wii will probably be in a non-DVD format so that doesn't even matter (friends of Nintendo, I predict you have another round of rebuying all your games--again--because Ninetendo doesn't believe in backwards compatibility; have fun with that, bitches!). Most of the movie studios have thrown in for Blu-Ray, and Sony is a powerhouse of electronics, so really, I shouldn't have to worry about it.

But Microsoft controls the PC industry. They just do, no matter what Apple wants (can?) to do about that, I think Microsoft isn't losing its control any time soon. When they have that much pull, they pull hard on everyone else. The PC gamers will definitely go for HD-DVD, then, as will other software providers, is my guess. People who want to record DVDs, say of home videos and the like, will still use regular DVDs until the HD ones drop in price, but when they do, they're going to want to use the format that best works with their computer. Since Microsoft will be on every 9 out of 10 computers, the manufacturers will have made them HD-DVD compatible. And, to watch them off of the computer (something "normal" people do, I'm told), they'll want the HD-DVD.

So, stalemate, yes. There are two routes: one, either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray dominates and the lesser format goes the way of the Beta and the Laser Disc, or, two, they are both dropped in favor of a compromise. The compromise could be a new format or dual-format computers/players/etc. But this won't come before the PS3 is launched, and it's already too late for the 360. Gamers are going to get screwed royally. If Sony loses, they can't play their HD-DVDs on the PS3. If Microsoft loses, the same is true with them of the Blu-Ray. If they compromise, both systems lose out on hi-def playing ability (unless they release new consoles, which will piss off everyone who got theirs early, I guarantee). Stupidity rules!

What's interesting to me is that Apple's been pretty quiet (far as I've heard) throughout this whole thing which makes me think that they, like everyone else, are hedging their bets. Unfortunately for the Mac Panthers out there, your "but it last a million years!" computer won't be able to play the HD-DVD/Blu-Ray discs, where as when my PC runs dead, I can get that upgrade. Then again, it's very possible the consumers will punish these electronics giants for being so fucking stupid about formatting issues that there won't be an agreed hi-def standard for DVD until your recent Mac purchasers need new ones. It's also possible that Apple's just a taaaaaad busy trying to get software to run better on their intel core duo machines to worry about this stuff.

Date: 2006-08-11 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I hate this push to hi-def in general. It's 9/10s scam, and the remaining 1/10th doesn't even matter unless you're one of a small percentage of people able to afford TVs and set ups that let you take advantage of it. But it's mostly a way to scare up money on every component that doesn't fly off shelves otherwise. I can believe how expensive the TVs are, but you start looking at the players, the components, the cable/satellite service? Holy Jeeze.

Don't get me started.

Date: 2006-08-11 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teneda.livejournal.com
When my dad got the plasma, he thought he was getting HD, just plug and play.

Nope. When we got it home and set up, we found you also needed HD service on your cable/satellite. THEN you need a DVD player and DVDs that USE HD. The final kick in the ass: The cables that go between the TV and your components have to be HD cables. Between 2 consoles, 2 DVD players, a VCR (Yes, he's old school) and the cable box, the cables came out to almost as much as he paid for the TV itself.

Re: Don't get me started.

Date: 2006-08-11 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
This is what I mean by rip-off. I still am not sure that you do need those cables. But the DVD player that's hi-def? That's complete bullshit, and your dad got taken. Now, if he asked for a HD-DVD/Blu-Ray player specifically, then that's fine. But if he wanted just to play his DVDs in good quality on a good quality hi-def TV? DVDs are already hi-def and besides progressive scan, there isn't anything to do a DVD player that already plays regular DVDs to make it "hi def." The one thing hi-def comes ready to do is play DVDs at hi-def with a DVD player. DVDs look awesome on our new TV, for example. VCR I don't think you can make hi-def; it just doesn't have enough lines going through the signal from the tape. Cable/satellite, however, you do need in hi-def to get hi-def delivery, though not enough channels offer it for me to care at this point.

Re: Don't get me started.

Date: 2006-08-11 07:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teneda.livejournal.com
Which is why I was glad to be home when he said that. He thought that because the picture looked normal from the DVD player, he needed a new one. I told him, "Just get the cables, it'll be ok." The whole reason we got 2 DVD players is because one is region free, so he can watch his HK stuff. But cables for all those components. Sheeeeit.

And the industry explains it by saying, "You don't NEED HD." No shit, but what happens when everything goes HD? What if you're that poor shlub with a 19' color TV from 1980-something that still uses knobs?

Re: Don't get me started.

Date: 2006-08-11 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, the cables are fucking expensive. You can go online and get them cheaper, though. Monster has pretty much dominated the retail market, but you dont have to pay the $200 for one of theirs if you look online, so I'm told.

The industry is already going HD. Not only are they going HD, they're going flat-screen. No more CRTs pretty soon, not that the drop in plasma screen prices are anywhere near what they should be for that to be anything but a criminal move, but that's a rant for another day...

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