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trinityvixen"Feed your head...feed your head"
How did the creators of Doctor Who come up with the sound of the TARDIS' engines? 'Cause they're drilling and excavating at the proper hospital across the street, and on my way to work, I had to keep from flipping out because it sounded so very similar (point of fact? If no one sees me again for a while after today, don't worry much ^.^). Just curious.
Speaking of Doctor Who, I finished the second series this weekend. And there's still kind of a lot that needs to settle in my brain about it, especially given as I finished it in a whirlwind marathon of doing nothing else execept watching the series. I haven't sat and done nothing else while watching a marathon in forever. I'm too used to typing on the computer or doing my craft-y stuff. It's really hard to measure time going by without those distractions.
So, first thing I did when I had a mo' after finishing the series was to go read up about it on Wikipedia. It seemed like a good enough spot for jumping into explanations about the history of the series without getting into all the continuity problems upfront or the fan wars about the same. This was extremely helpful and a lot less spoiler-ridden than I was expecting. Probably could have done me some good to read it ahead of watching the whole series, actually. None of it needs to be related here--no one who'd be reading this would know less than I do about it. Just generally helpful stuff, like I usually find on Wikipedia. I was actually surprised the entries were so short for the most part. I've read the stuff you'd find in medical journals on Wikipedia and gotten more to read. Then again, maybe the Wikipedia folk had to freeze the articles to keep the fan wars off their website and over on the many, many fansites where they belong.
Anyway, some impressions:
--I am a total slut for David Tennant, sure, but I'm not really feeling the sense of drama from the second of the new series as I did with the first. It's probably because Christopher Eccleston's Ninth Doctor was really fucking scary at many a time. When Nine got serious, I was really frightened of him. His constant smiling was mad in both senses of the word. The Tenth Doctor is just genially insane most of the time. He's so slight, physically, and nerdy, that, unfortunately, the stereotyped geek keeps him from being all that imposing. His method of reverse psychology and daring other people to not do as he suggests works but it's also a retreat, whereas Nine was not one to back down from much ever. Strangely enough, Ten defines himself upfront as the man who gives "no second chances," and that's not wrong even as he does back down. You can choose not to challenge and still be merciless in victory.
Really, the part where the Tenth Doctor was most frightening was in "School Reunion" where he faced down Giles (I have no idea what monster he was supposed to be--he was Evil Giles, and that's scary enough). "I used to have so much mercy," Ten says, and it's fairly chilling. Because wow, if he doesn't any more...when the Doctor runs out of mercy, genocide happens. Nine, being so close to massacre of the Time Lords and Daleks, had that as perspective, but the curse of living so long seems to be that you move on fairly quickly. And Ten had at that point. FREAKY!
--When it comes down to it, Torchwood is no Bad Wolf.
Bad Wolf was something important and implicit. Torchwood was faux important and explicit. I do actually like that the institute was set up with the idea that the Doctor was still an enemy (it doesn't forget that he's not human, which is the default ignorance of everyone in the series otherwise). If it had somehow been less verbalized in name or dwelt upon, it might have worked better. It doesn't help that I know there's the eponymous spin-off with Captain Jack Harkness and I spent the entire finale wondering where he was at, but still. Torchwood is less interesting and, as such, less unifying. So the whole series really did feel sort of episodic, even as there's the theme of "left behind" for both the Doctor and his companions that runs throughout.
And that, more than the destruction of the Time Lords and the Time War from the first series, is most depressing. Because it breaks down the fourth wall and adds extradiagetic information to the series. Basically, we know that the Companions get shucked off when they lose audience interest or appeal (or, as seems to be the case with Sarah Jane, get their own series). Making that explicit in the show is good dramatic stuff, sure, but it incorporates audience knowledge and spells it out for characters who haven't addressed it in the new series. Mickey, Jackie, sure, they get left behind, but they're not the stand-in or the emotional anchor for the audience--the Companion is. Telling the current Companion, "Hey, you are so dumped eventually," is fucking depressing, yo, because it brings up the sort of sad truth about the nature of Doctor Who--you can watch it for decades, but you might never see the end. That's a good thing, sure, if you want more, but everything ends (or it should, something else discussed within "School Reunion," which might have been my favorite episode for all that it impacts the entire series). Only, you probably will before the show does, and that's just hard to accept. Because you will never know the ultimate end. You will never know what happens to make the Thirteenth Doctor close his eyes and be done. As far as getting the audience to empathize with the Companions, it's a great trick. On the other hand, ouch.
Given my massive Ten-love, too, it hurts to think that he won't be around when (if!) there ever is an ultimate end. Because he can't be. Because in order for the Doctor to come to an end, he has to regenerate three more times. This may be why I couldn't compare Nine and Ten as the same person. I don't see the continuity. I like them both best because they're not the same person. Even though they are the same person. This is very confusing. I'm still working it out.
--Parallel universes and time travel is a cheat.
I just plain don't like that this show even went there. It's a cheat, plain and simple. We need not to do to Rose what we did to Sarah Jane, so we shunt her sideways to another dimension. Because it would be too hard to have her continue to live apart from the Doctor when she doesn't have to and because her connection to him was too hard to break otherwise. Stupid. Not to mention, it sucks for Jackie, even for all that she gets Pete v2.0. We need to have villains come back that we already wiped out--ah ha! Parallel universe! Dear God, why? Why couldn't there just be the Void? The place beyond time, where the Time Lord's can't quite reach (but, like Moya, I bet that the TARDIS can)? Because for the Daleks to hide there worked just fine for me (also, I love the Daleks beating the crap out of the Cybermen because the Cybermen are horrific, sure, but the Daleks are awesome, in both the awful and awe-filling sense). Why, why, why do we have to go to parallel universes? Couldn't they have found another reason for David Tennant to wear old-school 3D glasses for two episodes? I mean, on vaguely any reason at all they got him to use his real accent (!!!) and wear his hair in that ridiculous 50s coif, so anything would have done. I didn't need alternate dimensions as cheap escape from dealing with harsh reality (hello, Battlestar Galactica Season 2.5).
Or the fucking Devil. My God, can that two-parter unexist, please?
--The TARDIS being alive ought to be emphasized in all of the Doctor's advenures. Always.
Part of why the end of the Ninth Doctor's run really broke me down into a mess was not just because of Rose or even the loss of the Ninth Doctor. She was awesome (so was he, ::sniffle::), absolutely, no question, but it's the TARDIS that really killed me. Blon, the Slitheen, and Rose both saw the immaculate grace (GOD, really reading too much TWoP here) within it, touched it, and became something divine (Blon became a potential being, and unspoilt potential is divine; Rose became a God, so literally divine then). Rose rescuing the Doctor from the Daleks is an act of love divine, sure, but I was more moved by the idea that the TARDIS was the one whose love saved him equally or more than it was Rose's love that did.
I'm coming at this series from already being a Scaper, so when Nine mentioned that the TARDIS was alive, I did the obvious jump and immediately thought of Moya (see? Already mentioned her once before this). Moya shelters and protects and loves without question. I defy anyone to say the TARDIS doesn't do the same (the joke about the Doctor stroking the TARDIS and how pseudo-sexual that is adds a bit of intimacy to that all-encompassing love he exudes without ever being physical about it). So, when Rose opened the TARDIS, I got the vibe that it was the TARDIS going back to save its (her? his?) Doctor as being the supreme act of love. Last one in the universe, both of them, but it's more than that. Ten mentions that the TARDIS was grown (TARDIS as argument for or against Intelligent Design: discuss), so it would seem to be more a plant than an animal, but--and again this is my Farscape bias showing--that doesn't mean it's not equally a pet or friend to him. He's the TARDIS' Doctor, and it can't function (literally) without him (and it doesn't want to). Companions, even great ones like Rose, come and go. The immutability of this alive device (stays the same on the outside, changes on the inside, the perfect parallel to the Doctor) makes its love the purest. When (if!) the series comes to an end, the greatest tragedy will be the locking of the TARDIS. Like Pilot without Moya (which is yet another interesting inversion, as, technically, the Doctor is Pilot), the TARDIS can't live without the Doctor. It will lock itself up, the keys given the Companions made useless, and it will be buried, as Nine said it should.
And I will cry for years when (IF!) it does.
Another bit of TV-related news: I tried to watch Deadwood, and I couldn't get into it. I'm sure there's something amazing about the adventures of Old Timey Timothy Olyphant (aside from the obvious reason: he's sexy) and the cursing, ugly cur of the whorehouse owner, but I'm not going to discover it. It's too hard to tell characters apart as is with all the facial hair, and it's not made better by people double-crossing, lying, playing roles etc. Sorry, it's just not happening.
It probably doesn't help that I spent all that day on Doctor Who and then went to see The Nightmare Before Christmas 3D immediately after. Nightmare was great, by the by. I never got to see it on the big screen, so that was a treat. And the 3D effects weren't the popping-out-of-the-screen dizzying stuff you get in the standard made-for-3D fare. More, it was like they added more depth to the picture, so the 3D went backwards more than forwards, and it made it so much more beautiful. I spent the entire time smiling so hard that my mouth ached afterwards. I mean, how could I not? The second the main title started in ("Boys and girls of every age/ wouldn't you like to see something strange?"), I was totally into it. It only got better. Loved it!
How did the creators of Doctor Who come up with the sound of the TARDIS' engines? 'Cause they're drilling and excavating at the proper hospital across the street, and on my way to work, I had to keep from flipping out because it sounded so very similar (point of fact? If no one sees me again for a while after today, don't worry much ^.^). Just curious.
Speaking of Doctor Who, I finished the second series this weekend. And there's still kind of a lot that needs to settle in my brain about it, especially given as I finished it in a whirlwind marathon of doing nothing else execept watching the series. I haven't sat and done nothing else while watching a marathon in forever. I'm too used to typing on the computer or doing my craft-y stuff. It's really hard to measure time going by without those distractions.
So, first thing I did when I had a mo' after finishing the series was to go read up about it on Wikipedia. It seemed like a good enough spot for jumping into explanations about the history of the series without getting into all the continuity problems upfront or the fan wars about the same. This was extremely helpful and a lot less spoiler-ridden than I was expecting. Probably could have done me some good to read it ahead of watching the whole series, actually. None of it needs to be related here--no one who'd be reading this would know less than I do about it. Just generally helpful stuff, like I usually find on Wikipedia. I was actually surprised the entries were so short for the most part. I've read the stuff you'd find in medical journals on Wikipedia and gotten more to read. Then again, maybe the Wikipedia folk had to freeze the articles to keep the fan wars off their website and over on the many, many fansites where they belong.
Anyway, some impressions:
--I am a total slut for David Tennant, sure, but I'm not really feeling the sense of drama from the second of the new series as I did with the first. It's probably because Christopher Eccleston's Ninth Doctor was really fucking scary at many a time. When Nine got serious, I was really frightened of him. His constant smiling was mad in both senses of the word. The Tenth Doctor is just genially insane most of the time. He's so slight, physically, and nerdy, that, unfortunately, the stereotyped geek keeps him from being all that imposing. His method of reverse psychology and daring other people to not do as he suggests works but it's also a retreat, whereas Nine was not one to back down from much ever. Strangely enough, Ten defines himself upfront as the man who gives "no second chances," and that's not wrong even as he does back down. You can choose not to challenge and still be merciless in victory.
Really, the part where the Tenth Doctor was most frightening was in "School Reunion" where he faced down Giles (I have no idea what monster he was supposed to be--he was Evil Giles, and that's scary enough). "I used to have so much mercy," Ten says, and it's fairly chilling. Because wow, if he doesn't any more...when the Doctor runs out of mercy, genocide happens. Nine, being so close to massacre of the Time Lords and Daleks, had that as perspective, but the curse of living so long seems to be that you move on fairly quickly. And Ten had at that point. FREAKY!
--When it comes down to it, Torchwood is no Bad Wolf.
Bad Wolf was something important and implicit. Torchwood was faux important and explicit. I do actually like that the institute was set up with the idea that the Doctor was still an enemy (it doesn't forget that he's not human, which is the default ignorance of everyone in the series otherwise). If it had somehow been less verbalized in name or dwelt upon, it might have worked better. It doesn't help that I know there's the eponymous spin-off with Captain Jack Harkness and I spent the entire finale wondering where he was at, but still. Torchwood is less interesting and, as such, less unifying. So the whole series really did feel sort of episodic, even as there's the theme of "left behind" for both the Doctor and his companions that runs throughout.
And that, more than the destruction of the Time Lords and the Time War from the first series, is most depressing. Because it breaks down the fourth wall and adds extradiagetic information to the series. Basically, we know that the Companions get shucked off when they lose audience interest or appeal (or, as seems to be the case with Sarah Jane, get their own series). Making that explicit in the show is good dramatic stuff, sure, but it incorporates audience knowledge and spells it out for characters who haven't addressed it in the new series. Mickey, Jackie, sure, they get left behind, but they're not the stand-in or the emotional anchor for the audience--the Companion is. Telling the current Companion, "Hey, you are so dumped eventually," is fucking depressing, yo, because it brings up the sort of sad truth about the nature of Doctor Who--you can watch it for decades, but you might never see the end. That's a good thing, sure, if you want more, but everything ends (or it should, something else discussed within "School Reunion," which might have been my favorite episode for all that it impacts the entire series). Only, you probably will before the show does, and that's just hard to accept. Because you will never know the ultimate end. You will never know what happens to make the Thirteenth Doctor close his eyes and be done. As far as getting the audience to empathize with the Companions, it's a great trick. On the other hand, ouch.
Given my massive Ten-love, too, it hurts to think that he won't be around when (if!) there ever is an ultimate end. Because he can't be. Because in order for the Doctor to come to an end, he has to regenerate three more times. This may be why I couldn't compare Nine and Ten as the same person. I don't see the continuity. I like them both best because they're not the same person. Even though they are the same person. This is very confusing. I'm still working it out.
--Parallel universes and time travel is a cheat.
I just plain don't like that this show even went there. It's a cheat, plain and simple. We need not to do to Rose what we did to Sarah Jane, so we shunt her sideways to another dimension. Because it would be too hard to have her continue to live apart from the Doctor when she doesn't have to and because her connection to him was too hard to break otherwise. Stupid. Not to mention, it sucks for Jackie, even for all that she gets Pete v2.0. We need to have villains come back that we already wiped out--ah ha! Parallel universe! Dear God, why? Why couldn't there just be the Void? The place beyond time, where the Time Lord's can't quite reach (but, like Moya, I bet that the TARDIS can)? Because for the Daleks to hide there worked just fine for me (also, I love the Daleks beating the crap out of the Cybermen because the Cybermen are horrific, sure, but the Daleks are awesome, in both the awful and awe-filling sense). Why, why, why do we have to go to parallel universes? Couldn't they have found another reason for David Tennant to wear old-school 3D glasses for two episodes? I mean, on vaguely any reason at all they got him to use his real accent (!!!) and wear his hair in that ridiculous 50s coif, so anything would have done. I didn't need alternate dimensions as cheap escape from dealing with harsh reality (hello, Battlestar Galactica Season 2.5).
Or the fucking Devil. My God, can that two-parter unexist, please?
--The TARDIS being alive ought to be emphasized in all of the Doctor's advenures. Always.
Part of why the end of the Ninth Doctor's run really broke me down into a mess was not just because of Rose or even the loss of the Ninth Doctor. She was awesome (so was he, ::sniffle::), absolutely, no question, but it's the TARDIS that really killed me. Blon, the Slitheen, and Rose both saw the immaculate grace (GOD, really reading too much TWoP here) within it, touched it, and became something divine (Blon became a potential being, and unspoilt potential is divine; Rose became a God, so literally divine then). Rose rescuing the Doctor from the Daleks is an act of love divine, sure, but I was more moved by the idea that the TARDIS was the one whose love saved him equally or more than it was Rose's love that did.
I'm coming at this series from already being a Scaper, so when Nine mentioned that the TARDIS was alive, I did the obvious jump and immediately thought of Moya (see? Already mentioned her once before this). Moya shelters and protects and loves without question. I defy anyone to say the TARDIS doesn't do the same (the joke about the Doctor stroking the TARDIS and how pseudo-sexual that is adds a bit of intimacy to that all-encompassing love he exudes without ever being physical about it). So, when Rose opened the TARDIS, I got the vibe that it was the TARDIS going back to save its (her? his?) Doctor as being the supreme act of love. Last one in the universe, both of them, but it's more than that. Ten mentions that the TARDIS was grown (TARDIS as argument for or against Intelligent Design: discuss), so it would seem to be more a plant than an animal, but--and again this is my Farscape bias showing--that doesn't mean it's not equally a pet or friend to him. He's the TARDIS' Doctor, and it can't function (literally) without him (and it doesn't want to). Companions, even great ones like Rose, come and go. The immutability of this alive device (stays the same on the outside, changes on the inside, the perfect parallel to the Doctor) makes its love the purest. When (if!) the series comes to an end, the greatest tragedy will be the locking of the TARDIS. Like Pilot without Moya (which is yet another interesting inversion, as, technically, the Doctor is Pilot), the TARDIS can't live without the Doctor. It will lock itself up, the keys given the Companions made useless, and it will be buried, as Nine said it should.
And I will cry for years when (IF!) it does.
Another bit of TV-related news: I tried to watch Deadwood, and I couldn't get into it. I'm sure there's something amazing about the adventures of Old Timey Timothy Olyphant (aside from the obvious reason: he's sexy) and the cursing, ugly cur of the whorehouse owner, but I'm not going to discover it. It's too hard to tell characters apart as is with all the facial hair, and it's not made better by people double-crossing, lying, playing roles etc. Sorry, it's just not happening.
It probably doesn't help that I spent all that day on Doctor Who and then went to see The Nightmare Before Christmas 3D immediately after. Nightmare was great, by the by. I never got to see it on the big screen, so that was a treat. And the 3D effects weren't the popping-out-of-the-screen dizzying stuff you get in the standard made-for-3D fare. More, it was like they added more depth to the picture, so the 3D went backwards more than forwards, and it made it so much more beautiful. I spent the entire time smiling so hard that my mouth ached afterwards. I mean, how could I not? The second the main title started in ("Boys and girls of every age/ wouldn't you like to see something strange?"), I was totally into it. It only got better. Loved it!
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Date: 2006-10-30 05:35 pm (UTC)Your mp3 is mistagged. The title of the song you're thinking of is White Rabbit, Go Ask Alice is a Mormon anti-drug propaganda novel which took the line from the song for the title. (Okay, and this too...)
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Date: 2006-10-30 09:18 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-10-30 05:36 pm (UTC)The distinctive accompanying sound effect — a cyclic wheezing, groaning noise — was originally created in the BBC Radiophonic Workshop by Brian Hodgson. He produced the effect by dragging a set of house keys along the strings of an old, gutted piano. The resulting sound was then recorded and electronically processed with echo and reverb.
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Date: 2006-10-30 09:18 pm (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-10-31 12:44 am (UTC)And the doctor REALLY hates to abandon companions. I'm not sure on the numbers, but I think the leading cause of companion departure is "death" followed by "stopped traveling to stay in one place and do really cool stuff". (pre-post edit: Checking wiki, it seems I reversed those -- mostly, they stay behind to do something big or important, a few die, and more are taken away from The Doctor by other Time Lords than he abandons (2:1)).
Rose is not saved from abandonment by her alti-dad, but from death. And her final disposition reinforces my belief that the proper Companions to compare Rose to are NOT SJS or Ace, but Susan or Romana.
In fact comparing Rose and Romana is useful when thinking about Class and Who.
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Date: 2006-10-31 12:50 am (UTC)Sigh, I really should know better than to debate a show I've only seen the latest stuff from...
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Date: 2006-11-03 04:17 pm (UTC)Rose was supposed to DIE. She knowingly gave her life, there, and was rescued by a cheat. If anything was arbitrary, it was her survival in the other world.
And she's not irretrievable. The Resurrection of Gallifrey is coming. The ever-increasing connection of this series to the original three-decade run makes me absolutely positive of that.
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Date: 2006-11-03 05:17 pm (UTC)Then again, the show's creator keeps saying no, no, no, it's gone gone gone, and there are no others (not even in the parallel dimensions, which I quite like--Gallifrey as the nodal point between not only times but universes). We'll have to see.
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Date: 2006-10-30 05:49 pm (UTC)There was a hint of the end of His Dark Materials in the last episode of the second season, that I did find touching and sad, but I was also unsatisfied with the whole parallel universe plotline.
I really liked "School Reunion," mostly because of Giles and because Sarah Jane is my favorite companion--I've seen most of her episodes, and I liked how that episode tied the new series back to what came before it. Most of all, I was impressed with Tennant's ability to show that history in their reunion, and the sadness at their parting, despite never having met her before. I almost felt the fourth Doctor's connection with her through him.
My favorite episode is still "The Girl in the Fireplace"--really tragic and affecting, probably one of the best stories of any series I've seen. If only they could all be like that (especially with nary a mention of Torchwood, which I still have to check out...I have up to episode 3 now).
I like Tennant more than Eccleston, though I did like Eccleston quite a bit, especially right at the end. I guess I like the goofy doctors more--Tom Baker and Peter David are my favorites. You really should see more of the older series; unfortunately I only have one of the DVDs, and a bunch of tapes in storage.
And since I still haven't gotten my copy back, here's Doctor Who and the Curse of the Fatal Death, courtesy of YouTube--hurry, before they take it down!
Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N36_6n6BfFY
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0zFtBuFNiw&mode=related&search=
Also, thanks for organizing Nightmare. I might not have worked up the momentum to see it otherwise, and it would have been a shame to miss that lovely experience.
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Date: 2006-10-30 10:27 pm (UTC)I really liked that counter point to the way Rose greeted him. Because the same thing was going through my brain, as to how funny it was that the Doctor was supposed to have been around forever, but in the real world, Tennant was new, and Billie Piper was the veteran in terms of the series. The veteran distrusts the new. Then you meet up with Sarah Jane and she immediately recognizes him (I think she knew, even when he was pretending not to know her). It probably helps that she knew about his ability to regenerate, but still she's the veteran who believes in the future of the new. And while Ten had to prove to Rose he was who he said, which was a bit tiresome, he is already and forever the Doctor when Sarah Jane meets him (which, give credit where it's due--she managed to sell it even though, again, in the real world, she's the veteran and his elder by what ten-twenty years?). I think that's a huge part of why meeting her again works so very well, aside from the straight drama/trauma/comedy of her and Rose facing their future in one another.
My favorite episode is still "The Girl in the Fireplace"--really tragic and affecting, probably one of the best stories of any series I've seen. If only they could all be like that (especially with nary a mention of Torchwood, which I still have to check out...I have up to episode 3 now).
I just couldn't figure out that one, why the girl was so special or captivated him so much. Aside from her being awesome, she's not even a stand out above, say, Rose. Why he was chasing after her so fervently aside from trying to protect her I still can't work out. Plus the whole thing with the ship? Just never got to be important, why it was named as it was (after Bad Wolf, that kind of thing should be important). And I also have to get to watching Torchwood. I've got one and two so far...
Thanks for the links, I'll check them out at home. Also, thanks to you for picking up tickets. I'd call it 50-50 in making sure we all got out and went to Nightmare. So glad everyone had a good time.
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Date: 2006-10-31 01:00 am (UTC)The ship was named for her for the same reason we have ships named the George Washington or whatever -- you name ships after people. The ship got confused, and went to get her brain.
Really, I don't see what all the Rose-obsessiveness is about. She's not that great. Sure, she's big as companions go (his first after some particularly traumatic times, though there have been others that rescued him from bouts of dangerous solitude; got time in her brain, though see Romana), but she's still a companion, the nature of which is that their story does not start until they find somewhere to be (Cressida, President of Gallifrey). Ten wasn't being clear in School Reunion. It's not the aging and loss of Companions that's the tragedy, it's his endless stasis. Rose now gets to be the Defender of Alt-Earth, while he has to wander off again, homeless, able to be what he loves (human) only in the company of one more Human (or near-human) who will just abandon him again when they find something more interesting than wandering spacetime with an orphaned (previously exiled) demigod with far too much wanderlust.
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Date: 2006-10-31 01:29 am (UTC)I like Rose is why I am mad she's being shunted aside. Her chemistry with Nine and her ability to fake a good Doctor when investigating was really cool. Plus, she was a great grounder for the audience as the self-insert point: we saw all the consequences of her journey, not just the amazingness of what was in store for her.
And I got perfectly that the Doctor outlasts and outlives his Companions, I just disagree in that I don't think that's the tragedy. He's lonely and now actually alone, sure, but he regrets more that his Companions can't be immortal than he regrets his being so, I'd guarantee. Tragedy is measured by loss, and they are what is lost.
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Date: 2006-10-31 01:21 am (UTC)I knew it would be silly with Rowan Atkinson, but I couldn't fathom how much sillier it is with Jonathan Price hamming it up as the Master. And wow, if anything could look more silly still? Old timey Daleks. Still all crazy-voiced though, so that's awesome. Richard Grant is excellent--actually funny instead of just silly ("the only one I've ever had" WINKWINK). Daleks as metal gits! Priceless! Hugh Grant, cute, but mostly sleazy. And awwww not even the universe can bear to be without the Doctor. Very adorable. And if only Patsy from AbFab were the Doctor. If only...
The less cool: farting jokes making a repeat appearance. At least this was supposed to be a parody...
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Date: 2006-10-30 05:53 pm (UTC)And I cry at it every last time.
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Date: 2006-10-30 08:53 pm (UTC)So the fact that they can't hug and embrace as the Doctor does with all those he loves really breaks my heart, and what really gets me is when the TARDIS takes over and becomes Rose and is finally able to hug and kiss him for the first time--because it's finally, finally able to give back to him the physicality he enjoys and needs as well as satisfying its own need for the same. And it can't do that without killing him, so it can really only do it the once (and probably one more time--I wouldn't mind a kiss from the TARDIS being the way the Thirteenth Doctor goes out. That would make me CRY UNTIL I DEHYDRATED).
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Date: 2006-10-31 12:06 am (UTC)Count me in as another slut for David Tennant, but I miss the very obvious love that Chris Eccleston's Doctor had for Rose. Ten seems to be more "oh, she'd know". And I wish I could make "The Girl in the Fireplace" unexist because what Ten did is completely and utterly OOC, in my opinion. (And awwww, I loved The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit.)
I want the Face of Boe's third secret to be a way for the Doctor to get back to Rose. And is it wrong of me to hate his new companion already? Especially when the actress makes some comment on "she thinks she's on more of a level with the Doctor whereas Rose was just in awe"?
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Date: 2006-10-31 12:26 am (UTC)The thing is, I could buy if it he was looking to grab her as a Companion or just in awe of something she did, but she didn't really strike me as someone doing anything huge. I like his goofier-still faces in that ep, and I nearly died when he came out with the tie on his head. Otherwise, it was just meh.
(And awwww, I loved The Impossible Planet/The Satan Pit.)
See, what bothered me is the loss of the TARDIS as not as important as the Doctor, you know, losing all of Gallifrey. I mean, I wrote that huge bit about how he and the TARDIS are mad for each other, then it falls off into a crag, and the Doctor gives in and up on it. Kinda OOC for losing his third heart, you ask me. And I don't know what this was supposed to add to the series. If it were connected to the little girl's drawing in the closet in "Fear Her", then okay, but it didn't seem to be. Too many episodic bits!
I want the Face of Boe's third secret to be a way for the Doctor to get back to Rose.
As long as it's not a way to resurrect the Time Lords, I'd be fine with that. It's a strange, awful decision to massacre the Time Lords (as if they needed to be gone to emphasize how weird the Doctor is in comparison), but it should stay that way. Because it makes the fact that the Daleks weren't destroyed that much more awful.
Maybe it will be the secret to regenerating more than thirteen times...
And is it wrong of me to hate his new companion already? Especially when the actress makes some comment on "she thinks she's on more of a level with the Doctor whereas Rose was just in awe"?
No. Because Rose is awesome. Rose wasn't in awe of the Doctor when we first met her, though she sorta fell back on that in the second series. I heard she's a medical student, so maybe she meant in being an actual doctor, but, no, I'm sorta hating her already. I hated the girl who....ahem, won't say. The point is Ninth Doctor established that he only takes amazing people on board, and when Adam and Mickey both weren't it, one or the other commented that it would take a better man still to wedge himself between the Doctor and Rose, and then we got Captain Jack (who actually was as awesome and wonderful as promised, a nice surprise). Sarah Jane could have done just as well, but she made the responsible decision to grow up (something the Doctor has yet to do) and try not to spend her life remembering. That makes two-three official Companions, and they've been outstanding. Whoever steps into those shoes has a lot of tap dancing to do before I'll be impressed.
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Date: 2006-10-31 12:29 am (UTC)Hop to it! Hop hop hoppity hop! I can reward you with Torchwood if you want.
Count me in as another slut for David Tennant, but I miss the very obvious love that Chris Eccleston's Doctor had for Rose. Ten seems to be more "oh, she'd know".
I feel the same way, and because of the change of the Doctor's personality, it made sense for him to be buddy-buddy with Rose instead of intense-crazy-in love with her, and they tried to force it back into the way it was with Nine. I can't figure out why they didn't just let her adapt. Where was the chemistry lacking? Perhaps Rose got too used to the Doctor and became too like him. I dunno. Except I know for a fact that David Tennant is able to generate chemistry wherever and with whoever, so it's baffling why the scary Doctor should be more natural with Rose than he is...