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[trinityvixen]

Dragged feiran out for Saw III last night, our newly minted Halloween tradition. So not worth it, I'm afraid. The first one was as clever as it needed to be, with the "shocking ending," and the second did well with it, too, in addition to having the most horrid thing ever with the needle pit. The third one? I have no idea where they thought they were going with this one. The rules of the main game didn't seem to serve the right purpose, given Jigsaw's usual MO. Oh well.

And last night's Heroes was interesting but didn't really get us anywhere except the first on-screen demonstraion of what ikiN is capable of. Notably missing? Nathan Petrelli and Matt Parkman. Blink and you'll miss Peter and Isaac, but ooh, yay, a helping of Mohinder. Yes, because I was sooooo deprived last week when he wasn't in it at all (That's sarcasm. You might be able to tell by the fact I'm going to add a big fat "NOT" at the end here). I don't know what Claire's story accomplished that needed it to be dragged out like it did, nor why the writers of the show thought we were somehow unlikely to catch on to the mystery of why D.L.'s partners went missing. Hmm, his wife has a homicidal alter-ego. Yes, it must be someone setting them up! ::rolls eyes:: That immediately obvious from when Niki found the bodies before (do have to love ikiN's style--she gets her killing on, but makes Niki bury the corpses all night).

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[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

I need to rewatch Heroes since I missed a few fine details of some scenes. I will say that I'm curious about the timing of Hiro and friend going to the bathroom just before 2.0 ripped apart the room.

As for Saw 3, I guess you missed the point made about why the MO was all wrong. Even Jigsaw wasn't too happy about it hence THAT game. Can't say I much enjoyed this one either. It was way too predictable. Even worse it made a clear setup for another movie =-O I really hope they don't try and make a 4....... that would just suck.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

As for Saw 3, I guess you missed the point made about why the MO was all wrong.

No, actually, I got it just fine. Amanda was cheating, and Jigsaw wasn't happy about it. That whole revelation was obvious from the minute the detective figured out that there was no way for the first victim we see to have ever gotten out. What I don't like is the traps laid for Jeff. Jigsaw's MO has always been "You are ungrateful for what you have and contemptuous of your life. Therefore, I'm going to make you lose something precious or else die." It's a "will you cut your nose off to save your face or leave it on to spite it?" situation. Jeff's traps never threatened his life. Now, I get it that he lost something precious in order to live--so many precious things--but he would have lived without sacrificing anything. Sacrificing his need for "vengeance"? That's stupid.

Also, if he really was appalled by these people dying, why not act immediately? A moment of indecision, fine, but to wait until they're halfway gone before intervening? You would have thought he'd have learned after being appalled by the first victim. To be a true Jigsaw trap, he should have had to have saved them or else suffered a consequence (that would, nonetheless, still allowed him to keep going through the maze). That way, he's losing something precious--his vegeance--to save his life (so he thinks; after the first trap, he'd have caught on that it was their life or something more dear to him that gets the axe before he gets out, and then that would really be sacrificing his vengeance-ridden soul).

I got it fine, dude. It was just stupid and the main set up wasn't played by Jigsaw's usual rules or MO. If he'd been testing Jeff to try and get him to be another Amanda, a better one, fine. As is, he accomplished nothing.

[arcane-the-sage.livejournal.com]

You are again forgetting the main point..... The game was Amanda's not Mr. Happy Family. The whole point behind the game was to test her and not anyone else. So all the other people were just players in the game. The real game for that guy started right after that last tape started to play.

Now as for how they ended, I think that guys was Jigsaw's backup plan. By putting that guy into that situation he was sort of creating another Jigsaw. If they were to go into a 4th movie I bet it would involve that guy turning into Jigsaw part 2.

[ecmyers.livejournal.com]

How did you see Heroes? I have a copy I was going to watch with you guys tonight. And um, spoilers?

I wonder if Saw III was better than The Butterfly Effect 2. Sigh.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Sorry, I tried to keep spoiler-lite and stick to just like the stuff they were already mentioning. Still, should have used a cut-tag.

I taped Heroes last night. Old-fashioned VCR technology. Crazy. And Saw III cannot possibly have been worse than The Butterfly Effect 2, but I'm not willing to watch the latter just to prove it.

[ecmyers.livejournal.com]

Ah, you left the tape running then. I just figured you couldn't set the timer.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Nah, we did what you said there. Really, I'm beginning to wonder if it wouldn't be worth it for the extra $5 a month to get the DVR at this point, seeing as we end up taping things left, right, and center.

[ecmyers.livejournal.com]

I was planning to loan you guys my extra VCR, which has a remote so you can set the timer, if you want. I don't do VHS to VHS (or DVD/LD to VHS) dubs so much anymore, so someone might as well get some use from it.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

That would be cool, too. It also presupposes that we'd know how to work it, even with detailed instructions. I'll trust you or Carrie to work that out. I might still have to just leave things taping. Then again, can't not know how to program a VCR forever, I suppose.

[ecmyers.livejournal.com]

Then again, can't not know how to program a VCR forever, I suppose.

I suspect you could, given how hard they are to find these days, but it's a fairly simple thing to figure out.