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Spoiler intended for [livejournal.com profile] ivy03: How the heck did you keep a straight face when I was talking about Wonder Boys and you knew--you knew!--about that trailer!?!? I wouldn't have been able to do it!!

Liked it loads, laughed a ton. I was bit disoriented by the change of moods back and forth between the disparate groups of characters and the odd cameos and the fact that even though the man is staring you in the face for half the movie, I couldn't really see Robert Downey Jr. I guess that means he did a good job. He did, to be fair. Wonder if he helped coach Jack Black on what it's like having the DTs...

Date: 2008-08-19 06:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
I was underwhelmed, but still amused. Robert Downey Jr. was the best part of the movie, followed by Tom Cruise and Jay Baruchel (who anchored the movie) -- honorable mentions to Steve Coogan, Danny McBride and Nick Nolte who did what they could with the little they had. I thought Jack Black wasn't given enough funny lines and Ben Stiller just did his tired old schtick that, as I've finally decided, I just don't like.

In contrast, shockingly, and despite the horribly underwhelming trailers, I thought Get Smart was really great (I caught it today while at a farther away theater still playing it doing a training thing). Maybe not a masterpiece but a solid, highly agreeable B+ on all levels.

Date: 2008-08-19 03:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
I really liked Jay Baruchel, too. And I agree: Ben Stiller's schtick is wearing thin. In a movie where the humor comes at the expense of the characters' neuroses about their profession, his motivation should have been pretty killer: the wanna-be character actor trying to make a dramatic stamp. I think the real failure is setting up a conflict between he and Robert Downey Jr.'s character; in a battle of acting talent, RDJ wipes the floor with Ben Stiller.

I also agree that Get Smart was more laugh-out-loud funny. A lot of Tropic Thunder's humor was that sort of uncomfortable humor that makes me squirm as much as giggle. I prefer not having to work so hard for a laugh, and it's a sign of a great comedian that he or she can make you laugh at something like Get Smart which had the potential just to be yet another Hollywood raping of the Nick-at-Nite TV line-up. I think it helps that with his so-awkward-you're-not-sure-you-can-laugh type humor, Steve Carell is still adorable and sees you through it. Ben Stiller is not cuddly in the same way, nor is Jack Black with his abrasive humor or RDJ with his toeing-the-line performance as "black."

Date: 2008-08-19 05:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] droidguy1119.livejournal.com
What I liked about Smart was twofold: The movie didn't feel the need to be comedically "big" at every moment, and Maxwell was actually good at what he does. Any other movie would have insisted that every scene be a giant comic mishap for Max to get strung up in, but instead it actually gave his character skills that he could bounce off Anne Hathaway's character and they had really great interplay. Take the scene where he's listening to the two thugs in the bathroom: In any other movie, Maxwell would have stood there, struggling as his story got more and more ridiculous, but I liked that Get Smart actually chose to move the plot along than make an elaborate gag.

Date: 2008-08-19 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
They had to be careful of making him too competent, or he wouldn't be the amusing foil. It was often lop-sided, but Steve Carell has such a charmed way of smoothing things over, it's amazing.

Date: 2008-08-19 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ivy03.livejournal.com
I KNOW!!!! I was laughing so hurt my stomach hard. Somebody yelled at us to shut up. OMG. How is that not up on youtube by now?

When you mentioned Wonderboys, I was thinking oh. That must be how RDJ got Tobey to do the cameo.

(edited because it's too early for me to type properly)
Edited Date: 2008-08-19 12:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2008-08-19 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] trinityvixen.livejournal.com
Man, I didn't laugh half so hard at the rest of the film as I did at the trailers. Especially judging by who produced which film--i.e. Universal doing the "Scorcher" series, Fox Searchlight producing anything with a "serious" actor.

But yeah: it's so wrong that that was how we get to see Robert Downey Jr.'s O-face. I have to believe that, given some rumors of Tobey Maguire's social scene, he and RDJ are sorta kindred spirits of different generations. (Tobey Maguire and Leonardo DiCaprio used to hang and run wild about ten years ago, rather infamously.)

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