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[trinityvixen]

We have come to the everything-including-the-kitchen-sink point. Time to condense. Things that are working for me right now:

1) The fucked-up-ed-ness of Bennet's teaming with Sylar leading him to bring his daughter's cerebral rapist back into her life.
I do not like Good Boy Sylar. I do like the interaction between Sylar and Claire, however. It appeals to all her dirty-wrong-bad buttons, not least of which is the fact that her sympathy and lust for him is incestuous like whoa. (It's a Petrelli thing.) Make no mistake, Claire finding things in common with Sylar is really workable. They're both coming at it from different angles, but their common ground is believable now that neutered!Sylar is a given. I think that his conversion is either slipping or suspect because he seemed dangerously close to some super roid rage over Mr. Bennet wanting to kill him. Maybe converting Claire to his way of thinking is his ultimate revenge.

2) Nathan being a synthetic super.
I love that development because it makes him even more my wubby. Poor Nathan. He's the only super who is still a human being at heart--conflicted, imperfect, determined, struggling. It's really heart-breaking that he's nothing more than a trial run for Mama's better boys. It also explains how come his brothers are so overpowered and he can, uh, fly.


...that's it.

I'm pretty sure if I pulled a South Park and had manatees pick out words with which to make plot developments, you couldn't come up with more unlikely, improbable, or staggeringly moronic developments.

I watched My Own Worst Enemy afterwards. It was terrible. It was still better than Heroes. There was also a frightening moment where someone quoted something pithy (they did that a lot) and I said, "That makes no sense." Then Christian Slater said the exact same thing. I could totally write for NBC.

Comments

[slackwench.livejournal.com]

Granted that I was playing Spore at the time, but I thought My Own Worst Enemy was workable.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Workable with better writing and a better lead. Christian Slater wasn't bad as Henry, but he's not entirely believable as Edward. Also, what the shit is with people constantly quoting famous people? And Mike O'Malley--of Nickelodeon GUTS-fame no less--was better at the switcheroo than he was.

[droidguy1119.livejournal.com]

That's too bad. I like Christian Slater, and he deserves to be in something that succeeds.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

I used to like Christian Slater. In the early 90s.

In all fairness, he doesn't do a bad job, but the story is completely lacking in irony and awareness. The problem, as my roommate pointed out, is that this universe seems to have all the fiction and history of our world except what they would need to recognize that they're caught in a cliche. No one seems to know anything about Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, for example, except the writers. It's extremely weird for them to play on that story (Henry and Edward, har har) and have no one recognize the archetype. It makes them all seem rather clueless.

On top of that, there's no sense that they're aware of James Bond, Jason Bourne, or any of hundreds of hero/anti-hero precursors. It's one thing to try and re-invent the wheel as far as warring with oneself, but for a spy agency to have not a reference to any other spy agencies or spies?? It's like they're operating in a vacuum, and that just isn't engaging..

[neo-leviathan.livejournal.com]

Sylar digging at Claire is a nice little indication that Sylar is not Mr Nice Guy, even if he's been neutered, and yay for small bits & pieces of character developement around.

The rival company & Mr Petrelli thing could be interesting.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Tonight, we gathered together to watch a debate. We mentioned that a friend who would be joining us late had a big announcement. One friend joked, "He's pregnant!" Another friend got mad at her for spoiling him for Heroes, or so he thought. The fact that we can't tell mpreg from the show's story = MADE OF FAIL.

[neo-leviathan.livejournal.com]

Oh. Comparison that you may find interesting:

Ma Petrelli: "I've put Peter in a Medically enduced Coma"


All my Circuits producer: "We've reworked your character to better suit your acting ability"
Bender: "So my character now has a British accent?
AMCP: "No, you're characters now in a coma. Get in bed and dont move"

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Amazing! Except I like Bender...

[neo-leviathan.livejournal.com]

Bah! We both know that Bender is nothing more than a stage-man for Zoidberg's brilliance!

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

I think that his conversion is either slipping or suspect because he seemed dangerously close to some super roid rage over Mr. Bennet wanting to kill him.
I think those were tears of w0e. That's what it looked like to me.

Sylar's been Spiked! They just need a chip in his head to deal with those "urges" and then we can just forget his murderous past and accept him as a good guy, right?

Peter has been turned into a walking disaster that is either a weak and causing mayhem or in a coma. Remember in season one where there was that whole good son/bad son complicated family dynamic between the Petrellis, where they actually acted like a believable dysfunctional family? I miss those dies. *sigh* At least Nathan occasionally pays lip service to actually giving a fuck what's happening to Peter.

Also--do they know how to end an episode without some big reveal involving the word "Petrelli"? I don't think they do.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Sylar's been Spiked!

I love that term. Because that's exactly when I started giving Buffy the stink-eye. I hate that popular must = good. You know what? Villains? Are awesome. Let them be fucking villains. Do you see movies called The Adventures of Laurie Strode and Nancy Thompson? FUCK NO, you go see Freddy vs Jason. Let villains be villains, damn it.

Remember in season one where there was that whole good son/bad son complicated family dynamic between the Petrellis, where they actually acted like a believable dysfunctional family?

I remember. I also fucking remember that there was a time when absorbing too many goddamned powers nearly killed Peter and left Sylar permanently psychotic. Hey, remember when the uber-powerful Marty Stus had limitations!?!?one!!?

I miss the Petrelli dynamic because it was authentic. You had the overbearing father and the mother who played favorites and the children who were an obvious result of that upbringing. Now you have Angela gunning for Clytemnestra's place in the history books and illegitimate Petrelli scions (assuming that's why Sylar was ever given away in the first place) popping up all over. I remember when people used to have normal reactions and how awesome it was that they had to square increasingly bizarre shit with reality. Omg reality.

Also--do they know how to end an episode without some big reveal involving the word "Petrelli"? I don't think they do.

They tried other families--the Saunders, Sureshes, Parkmans, et al.--but none had half the inappropriate subtext. So they thought they could make some up by making everyone a Petrelli. It's not working...

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

Also, Sylar has super-hearing, which the show seems to have forgotten.

And I know "science" does not apply in this show, but the whole concept of creating a drug that would give someone powers (that was actually small enough that you could write it on a piece of paper and not need computer modeling) and then tearing that formula into four pieces and keeping them seperate so no one can ever use it... Science cannot be unlearned. If someone figured it out, it's quite likely someone else will. You don't need the precious piece of paper at all. The idea that it would be worth so much effort, or that you could prevent it's use by ripping up the paper, is ludicrous.

I mean, look at how succesfully we've managed to control the science behind H-bombs. Making the study of anything related to that classified has done exactly jack shit to keep people from figuring it out.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Also, Sylar has super-hearing, which the show seems to have forgotten.

You're my hero, did I mention that? I think I'm going mad. I'm blinking at his utter ineptitude and going "Um, twenty billion superpowers and you still can't do shit?"

As for the science: maybe they killed everyone who worked on it? Except that we know they didn't! Because all the Company bigwigs are still around and Dr. Zimmerman is free to retire in Cabo or something.

[ivy03.livejournal.com]

Also also (yes, I just watched this), why would Mohinder just slap Maya to a wall? It's been shown his victims can regain conciousness. And if Maya regains conciousness, she can kill him with her brain. If there's one person you just outright kill, she would be it.

I think I'm just working on the assumption now that Maya has no brain cells and that's how her power works. Her stupid has ceased to surprise me. As has Hiro's. You know what I felt when Hiro stabbed Ando? Complete disinterest. I don't even care how they're wiggling out of that. I don't even recognize this character anymore.

[trinityvixen.livejournal.com]

Maya was made of dumb from the second we met her, but this has hit new lows in IQ. It makes no sense for her not to kill Mohinder if she believes that her power will only kill people he was going to kill anyway! WTF?

neo_leviathan thinks that Mohinder's pet lizard is secretly draining the intelligence out of people its proximity. This might be the proof.